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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 26, 2015 at 3:49pm

Randy. love your reports, both of them! I just shared your "pancake lasagna" with salmon and spinach" with Laura and Larry. they both like the idea and we will try it.

A disappointment about the Hofbrau Haus surprises me. German tavern food is usually out of this galaxy.  "Brotzeit" plate of cold cuts & cheeses," "Potato soup," "Spaetzle noodles with melted cheese," and Sauerbraten". Of course beer, althoughI can't drink alcohol now, there are non-alcoholic beers. I love German beers. Also, freshly made pretzels. 

Your sister sounds like she needs a little growing up, Her pity potty provides her with an opportunity to live happier and healthier. If she does not realize that, she could go to her grave with that dysfunction.

"pancake lasagna" with salmon and spinach

Comment by Daniel W on April 26, 2015 at 8:15am
Joan, I'm so releived. Thank you for the update. I know you are so resourceful and intelligent, and have a caring family who you raised, so you are in the best of hands. I hope there is a plan to strengthen your bones. On the food aspect, with a good serving of calcium like milk, or yogurt, every day. Vitamin D usually at 1000 IU daily.

I cant tolerate milk but need dairy for the phosphorus. Greek yogurt works well for me. I have it at toom temp, smoother and more flavor that way.

Im guessing the bowel stasis was due to opiate pain medication. Most of the opiates do that. Codeine is milder with pain but worse with bowel stasis. Tramadol has the pain management level of codeine but is better with bowels for most people. After my gastrectomy they kept pushing oxycodone and dilaudid on me but I kept them to a minumum because The weird dreams, mental fogginess, and constipation were so bad

Randy, the cruise sounds great. I as on Norwegian Cruise last fall. They had good food and no problem accomodating me as a vegetarian. I never had to state it, there were always choices available.

Pierogies for everyone! I like mine with tomato sauce and Romano cheese. Not traditional, but they are so good!
Comment by Randall Smith on April 26, 2015 at 6:54am

Permit me to amend my cruise ship food analyses. I should have been more positive, less critical. We did have "theme" meals (dinner), albeit not what I expected. Breakfast was pretty much the same every day--no biggie. Lunch was fantastic, almost dinner like. Soups were great. Lots of fruit offered. And I had a "pancake lasagna" with salmon and spinach that was out of this world. But that was in a restaurant. I guess my last meal at the Hofbrau Haus soured my overall impressions. 

I might mention that my sister, a vegan (more or less), had difficulty finding edible foods. But she liked to play the martyr, receiving sympathy from others. She never complained--just suffered in silence, sort of. I caught her "cheating" several times. I ignored her.

Comment by Plinius on April 26, 2015 at 1:47am

Not what I meant! I could avoid you, but I'd rather not.

Comment by Plinius on April 26, 2015 at 12:45am

You're right Joan, what cannot be avoided must be endured, but I'm glad you're on the mend and back!

Thanks for the quonset link, Sk8eycat - I think I've seen one years ago, but never fitted as a house. Roomy enough, I think.

Comment by sk8eycat on April 26, 2015 at 12:34am

Awww, c'mon!  You were saying the same thing the other day.

Comment by sk8eycat on April 25, 2015 at 11:18pm


It's been damned dull around here without you.  8 > )

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 25, 2015 at 8:22pm

Daniel, I am so on the mend. I wanted to die for a few day.  We went into high drive, put the damned hose in my nose and get that shit out of my stomach! Once the hose was inserted into my nose to my stomach, within two hours two liters of poo flowed from my stomach, through my nose into the jug!

Sorry to be so graphic about it, but if I could suffer the pain, dear friends, you can suffer the story. We are a strong bunch.

I do wish Carl would contact us! This is not good news! Does anyone remember if he was still with us when we exchanged addresses?

Just a recap of my present situation.

I sleep sitting up in a recliner because I hurt when I breath when laying down.The chair is perfectly comfortable. I sleep soundly.

I spend my day sitting in the dining room on a firm chair that gives me excellent support while I type one handed. Larry and Laura each have their own businesses and they spend the days at their desks at their computers. We eat lunch together and then either Laura or Larry prepares outstanding meals. 

Craig was here for almost a week from Littleton, CO. He is also in the computer business and engineering the computers for research scientists. Some wonderful new technology will be coming out soon. The project he works on now is to have a scanner in ambulances connected to the doctors and hospitals as they transport stroke victims to the hospital with sirens blaring. The doctors can read the scan before the ambulance arrives. HE WAS ABLE TO WORK WHILE HE WAS HERE!

Craig's wife is a licenced physical therapist and works with patients preparing to go to surgery. She teaches all the things I have been writing you. 

I think I told you how easily the nose tube went into my stomach and the doctor and technician came to interview me about how I could tolerate the procedure so well. I explained that I learned and daily do mental quieting. I perceive a problem as an opportuniy to find solution with reasoning, solid communication skills and how tonegotiare solutions. This process is nothing more complicated than refreming. I reframe problems into opportunity. 

I teach children how to breath in a needle while they watch the procedure, With training, virtually everyone can learn these processes. 

I teach cognitive processes to create a tool kit for a person.

No mumbo jumbo, no magic, no prayers. Just simple cognition.

Daniel, thank you for your kind words. 

Each one of you on this string, I am uplifted knowing you think of me and wish me well. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 25, 2015 at 6:58pm

Daniel, I love pierogies! Save one for me! Save one for me!

Randy, what a disappointment about the food! There should have been some dazzling cabbage salads, turnip pickles, pickled onion, kohlrabi refreshers, to go with the meat and potatoes. Do write a letter to their headquarters, and if there is a newsletter, send an op-ed piece to it. If people go to Germany for that wonderful cuisine and get what you describe, others will not book seats and they will have to make basic changes. I suppose some old folks like their vegetables cooked to mush. That is the way my grandmothers cooked because of the home canning dangers. However, those days are gone if canning is done properly.

Bertold, I love spätzle! with a nice, light white sauce called geschnetzeltes over spätzle. I don't use veal, but brown mushrooms, onion, garlic, and fresh sage out of my garden, just to develop the flavor and then proceed.

sk8eycat, when my husband was at the U of WA in Seattle we had a very limited budget. Every Saturday night we and a group of friends went to a waterfront hoffbrau haus for a pint of German beer, a bowl of potato soup and a rustic homemade bread. It was delicious and a lot of down and out people, "skidrow types", ate there as well. We sang danced and played pool. Quite an interesting period of my life. 

Good dining and entertainment on the cheap was fun relaxation after a very difficult week.

Patricia, my Royal Caribbean cruise through the Panama Canal from San Diego on the Pacific side to Ft Lauderdale had very fine dining or casual cafes. The food was a combination of Caribbean flavors, including African, East Indian, The Netherlands, Chinese, Aztec, Arab and others who colonized the region.

Ingredients included rice, beans, sweet potatoes, coconut, chickpeas, bananas and plantain and all kinds of  trpical fruit.

The dishes included such names as Ropa vieja, Callaloo, and Erwten Soep, a soup that came with the Dutch to Aruba.

I highly recommend this Royal Caribbean line and destination.


Comment by Daniel W on April 25, 2015 at 6:17pm

I think shipping containers would be the modern equivalent.


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