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Comment by sk8eycat on February 7, 2015 at 1:32pm

Oh.  I never fell for the "low-fat" scam.  I don't know why; it just felt wrong...and I was reading science magazines starting back in the mid-1960s...mostly for the NASA news, but I got caught up in the medical/dietary research, too.  Especially the ongoing research on groups like the Pima indians.  I KNEW they weren't living "high on the hog."  ... butter, and fatty (expensive) beef, and other "rich" foods. 

Remember the "Pasta Diets" of the 1980s? All I could think of were some local Italian grandmothers...obese, in black dresses.

And on and on.  My mother had high cholesterol, and was told to "cut down" by her doctor, so she one egg a week, plain ground beef patties the size of silver dollars, etc....skim milk, ghod-awful margarine...ick!  Didn't lower her cholesterol numbers a bit.  And she got cancer.  A certain amount of fat is necessary to keep the immune system going...

And a friend's father ...a small, skinny man...was on the same sort of diet for the same reason, and died of blocked coronary arteries, anyway.

I want BUTTER on my oatmeal!  Not that watery stuff with a funny flavor.  (Can't cook with any margarine ever developed.)

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 7, 2015 at 1:26pm

From reading the paper... acidic marinades do result in far less AGEs being formed during cooking.

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 7, 2015 at 1:08pm

I've actually come to prefer the taste of less-fatty sausage; but still prefer beef hamburgers to turkey burgers.

There's bad news, though: all that delicious roasted and grilled meat seems to gradually make you stupid (as in the cognitive and motor declines and brain deposits associated with Alzheimer's disease).

"In typical national diets, we found that meat made the highest contribution of AGEs, followed by vegetable oils, cheese, and fish."

The very worst of the foods tested were chicken with the skin, roasted and/or barbecued; bacon; hot dogs (especially broiled); steak (especially fried); and anything breaded and fried.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 7, 2015 at 10:28am

That was my guess why you switched Randy.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 7, 2015 at 7:29am

Turkey IS cheaper, but that's not the reason I switched. It was the "better for you" theory that I fell for--less fat, etc. No longer duped, I'm back to the good stuff!

Comment by sk8eycat on February 6, 2015 at 9:27am

Why did you switch to turkey substitutes?  Price?  Taste?  I like smoked turkey wings and things, but they're awfully difficult to find in the stores.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 6, 2015 at 7:38am

For several years I've substituted turkey products for "real" meat--sausages, "hamburger", bacon. I think I've forgotten what ground beef and pork taste like. I've accepted the turkey taste as natural. I'm not sure about the facts surrounding soy products. I've heard both good and bad.

Comment by Michael Penn on February 6, 2015 at 6:36am

So have I, but soy doesn't agree with everyone. Soy doesn't bother me, nd I even like a giant soy hamberger.

Comment by Daniel W on February 5, 2015 at 9:07pm
My bacon is vegetarian. For the most part, I just have it in summer for BLTs. Most people here would hate it, but I like it.
Comment by sk8eycat on February 5, 2015 at 7:59pm

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    The Golden Years can kiss my A$$."


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