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Frisco Atheists

A gathering place for atheists in Frisco, TX.

Location: Frisco, TX
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Does a Bible Bowl event sound like fun?

Started by Mark Johnston. Last reply by Mark Johnston Sep 22, 2009. 2 Replies

Meet the Rabbi?

Started by Mark Johnston. Last reply by Josh Murray Jul 17, 2009. 5 Replies

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Comment by Mark Johnston on August 6, 2009 at 5:51pm
Difference of opnion is a good thing. And I'd love to see the Frisco Atheists expand and be a little more accomodating to our naturally divergent base. By all means we can never eliminate open meetings. There are many atheists that enjoy interraction with believers; I am one of them We can have atheist-only meetings. I am willing to give the existing meetings over to anyone who has the interest in developing that forum. The only thing that I insist on is that every atheist must be welcome in every meeting. We are here to serve atheists - period. Please don't feel like it would be some kind of church split if some people feel passionately that we should have closed meetings; that just means that we're meeting different types of needs. (group hug)
I will continue to work on the projects that I feel strongly about and continue to encourage people to launch into other areas. If open house dies from lack of interest, I'll take my licks. If movie night, lecture night, atheist-only night, volunteer day fail, so be it. But I prefer that they all succeed.
Comment by Soapwizard on August 6, 2009 at 4:59pm
The theists haven't bothered me so far. I'm okay with meet the paster/rabbi/shaman whatever gatherings. Not in every meeting, but it hasn't bothered me so far.

Lisa has never bothered me, and I think it helps to have a believer around. It focuses the group by way of contrast. Without her, we are very different people who don't believe in a god. That isn't much to build an organization on IMO.



Lisa
Comment by Rick on August 6, 2009 at 1:17pm
Well... the hockey sounds like a good option to me :-)

I get where you're coming from, but the difference is (or at least I would think... since I've never been) is that you get to make THEM feel like the odd man out for a change.

I don't know about you, but I can't just go on an atheist rant here at work. I'd be hauled off and outcast immediately. They'd get a chance to understand what it's like for us every day.
Comment by Josh Murray on August 6, 2009 at 12:45pm
Rick, we have meetings that are inclusive, the last thing that I want to attend is a beleiver/atheist hug fest for every freakin' meeting. There is a distinct reason that I choose not to attend the atheist/believer get togethers. If the group wants to go that way, it'll be fine but it will have to move forward without me since I see it as the only bastion that I have to get away from the A-holes I have to deal with in work and everyday life who think the world is 6000 years old and worship an imaginary sky daddy because a book of fiction tells them it's all true. I have no desire to waste my free time sitting around a table with people I have little or no respect for because of their backwards and outdated beliefs and can find better ways to spend a Sunday evening if need be. Heck, if I wanted to hang with believers on Sundays, I'd join the effin' xtian hockey league so I could legally beat the crap out of them every Sunday night!
Comment by Rick on August 6, 2009 at 12:12pm
I live in Plano and I've been thinking about going to one of the meetings, but I figured I'd say this...

Wouldn't it be better to be inclusive in regards to the meeting? I'd prefer religious people to be there. They just have to understand that their in the midst of atheists and thus they can't demand reverence for their superstition.

I think it would be better as it would likely add a bit of fire to the discussion (rather than being in an echo chamber) and best case scenario the religious individual begins to see how flawed the arguments for their belief are.

Plus I think it says something about a group when they welcome everyone from all walks of life.

Just my two cents.
Comment by Josh Murray on August 6, 2009 at 12:01pm
As for how the meetings will be handles, I think both should be what they are - atheist meetings. We can have a the meet the pastor or whatever once a month and that should be more than enough interaction between the groups. Considering that we are supposedly tring to get some stuff together for community efforts and to get out there, we really don't need much more interaction with them if everything gets off the ground, do we? I know that I don't.
Comment by Josh Murray on August 6, 2009 at 11:59am
On the last Sunday meeting there was another guy there, also a xtian and a bit more annoying than Lisa. Regardless of how nice and such, they can come to meet the pastor and ask away, but I don't go to these things to feel the need to answer stupid questions from believers or even be around them. I get enough in everyday life without having to answer the same stupid questions from stupid people that I don't respect or really want to converse with during a time I have supposedly set aside for time with other atheists and to get away from the normal BS.
Comment by katy lavallee on August 6, 2009 at 11:46am
To be fair, Lisa just asks questions. I've never heard her present her point of view as fact, and I like the way she helps me express myself. Aside from her, the other christians came because it was Meet the Pastor and such, right?
Comment by fegary on August 6, 2009 at 11:41am
I think that at least one of the regular monthly meetings should strictly be atheists only. It would be nice if both were, but it seems a different precedent has already been set.
Comment by Mark Johnston on August 6, 2009 at 7:17am
Josh is right, Jason. There are no longer any atheist-only nights but I do think they're important. Again, I think we should decide as a group how often we want to meet as atheists only and how often we want to have an open house. I cannot organize both sides though - my involvement so far has got me fairly well-drained. I will happily attend as many of the atheist only events as I can, though. And if everyone wants the existing 2nd and 4th Sundays to be atheist only, then I'll be glad to start a new open meeting on a different night. Anyone who organizes the atheist-only night will have access to the mailing list and if that event is the one that strikes a chord with the bulk of atheists in Frisco then I'd be thrilled to see it succeed.

BTW - we still need to get a movie night organized - hint hint. And if anyone feels brave enough to organize a lecture...
 

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