LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Gender Identity and Sustainability

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26. 0 Replies

Epigenetics and sexual orientation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 8. 0 Replies

Gaydar doesn't exist and it's bad?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel W Sep 13. 2 Replies

Homophobia as pathology

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11. 0 Replies

The Trans Issue

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Denise Deiloh Sep 3. 4 Replies

Does Obama's gay advocacy exclude trans

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 27. 5 Replies

Betty Bowers on PRIDE

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Daniel W Jun 5. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on October 6, 2011 at 12:04pm

Maybe an urban legend.  Way back when, I did presentations on LGBT people of note in history, and the tragic story of Turing was popular.  


I imagine for every Turing there were hundreds of people who underwent similar treatment, whose names will never be known because they are not war heros.  Those are the times that religionists and sanctimonious politicians pine for.

Comment by annet on October 6, 2011 at 10:33am
Okay so upon further research apparently the apple part of the story is not 100% confirmable. But I like it.
Comment by annet on October 6, 2011 at 9:15am

Did you guys know the last sentence?  


16. Alan Turing (1912-54), British scientist, cryptanalyst, logician, mathematician. highly influential in the development of computer science, providing a formalization of the concept of the algorithm and computation with the Turing machine, which played a significant role in the creation of the modern computer. He devised a number of techniques for interpreting German ciphers in World War II, and broke the Enigma machine’s code, saving tens of thousands of lives in the process. Turing’s homosexuality resulted in a criminal prosecution in 1952-homosexual acts were illegal in the United Kingdom at the time. He was chemically castrated as an alternative to prison. He is said to have committed suicide by eating cyanide in an apple. In 2009, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown made an official public apology on behalf of the British government for the way in which Turing was mistreated after the war, a left-handed “thank you” for all the good work he had done for his country. The partially bitten apple on Steve Jobs’ computers is a silent tribute to his advances in computer science.

Comment by Daniel W on October 5, 2011 at 9:27pm
George, you are right.  He's at least as clever as....  I don't know.  If we could  assign him to alphabetize a package of M&Ms, we wouldn't hear from him for a couple of months.
Comment by George on October 2, 2011 at 7:00am

@ Sentient Biped:  Clever isn' the?  His phone "accidentally" rings with the ringtone "Kill That Faggot".  It's a song by the rapper Styles P on an album called Ghost in the Shell.  

His wikipedia page makes no mention of the song - perhaps it's just as well he doesn't have publicity.


Comment by Dominic Florio on October 1, 2011 at 9:48pm

I taught at a school where this black ghetto trash/white trailer trash mentality was the norm.  You fought for everything and if someone looked at you in what you considered the wrong way, it was grounds for fighting.  Many of the kids were from a low socio-economic background, and some were middle class, but adopted the attitude.  Maybe it was to survive in a school with a violent population.

We had parents who would sneak into the school, to continue a fight between their child and another, which started in the hood.

We would have students who admitted to inappropriate or even criminal behavior, and the parent would be angry that we were picking on their child.

If you had two students and one got hurt while your back was turned, the defense of the other was that you didn't see me hit him or her.

Schools tolerate the term "that's gay" meaning lame or not cool, and some adults buy into it, so that they appear cool to the kids.  Some teachers do not want to defend gay kids or reprimand those who make anti-gay comments, afraid that they will be labeled as gay.

But the biggest crime is to excuse this young man and others like him, in the name of culture.  Culture doesn't feel pain, suffering, or experience death.  Culture should never justify bad behavior. 

Comment by Daniel W on October 1, 2011 at 12:01pm

"Bullying is needed"?


Notice at the end, his phone ringtone is "shoot that fagboy"
Comment by Daniel W on October 1, 2011 at 11:51am

This story has been on a number of websites, so maybe m the last to see it. Bullied even after his suicide...


Comment by godfree inseaofred on October 1, 2011 at 3:42am

Wonderful work Darren! 

Comment by Darren Taggart on September 30, 2011 at 11:52am

Cheers guys!  The original one was too horrid to ignore; dripping with unspoken assumptions about the threat to normalcy!




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