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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Supported Transgender Kids Do Fine

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Wednesday. 2 Replies

Religious Colleges get federal pass on discrimination

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 3 Replies

Gay Suicide - Art Backfires

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30. 6 Replies

Caitlyn Jenner loves Ted Cruz

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Susan Stanko Mar 7. 15 Replies

Mean Sally says, "Go kill yourself!"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 31. 9 Replies

Way of the Mister: Murder the Gays!!! (Brian Dalton)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 18, 2015. 16 Replies

Gender Identity and Sustainability

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26, 2015. 0 Replies

Epigenetics and sexual orientation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 8, 2015. 0 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on April 15, 2012 at 10:09am

Tony, here's a link to wikipedia, the source of all knowledge :-) on LGBT deities and semideities.  I regard these legends as similar to sci fi but with historic meaning because people either believed the stories or enjoyed telling them in the past.  They are fun to read.

 

Aztec god "Xochipilli was the god of art, games, beauty, dance, flowers, maize, and song... also the patron of homosexuals and homosexual prostitutes... complex set of associations including the role of entertainer, the love of exotic foods and perfumes, male gender variance, and same-sex eroticism" - sort of the Liberace of the Aztec pantheon. (Anyone who doesn't know who Liberace was can google on him).

Comment by Daniel W on April 15, 2012 at 9:33am

Dallas, sometimes I'm left speechless.  Just speechless.

On another note, Sweden continues to move toward gender neutrality, replacing "boys and girls" with "buddies" in school, and replacing the he/she pronoun (in Swedish the gender neutral pronoun is "hen").  I may be in the minority, but my own preference is toward embracing gender.   However, at least acceptance of the new pronoun gives a sense of choice about expression.

Comment by Tony Carroll on April 14, 2012 at 9:24pm

SB,I guess all this reading of myths from my youth is somehow paying off. Don't know about the Aztecs, but since their religion is derived from the Maya, probably so. The Mayan had a child/dwarf diety, but can't remember the name right now. This diety introduced homoerotic relationships to the nobles in Mayan culture, as I recall. Not for the common people. Such unions were considered legally binding, marriage.  But then again, you could have multiple mates (if you were noble), of varying degrees. Interesting stuff. In my youth, got really into mythology, and expanded it to cultures other than Greco-Roman, which is where we stopped in school.

Comment by Daniel W on April 14, 2012 at 8:43pm

Tony, thanks for the information about not-necessarily-hetro deities.  I should make a list.  I bet there are some in the Aztec pantheon too.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 14, 2012 at 2:01pm

Well, some people like being pissed on.  (Present company excluded.  However, I've never been given the opportunity.) 

Comment by Tony Carroll on April 14, 2012 at 12:33pm

Hey SB. In the current, western religious belief system, i.e. christianity, there are indeed no LGBT dieties. Though homoertica is certainly suggested/hinted at. In the older religions, I'm reminded of Apollo, who had a male lover named Hyacinth. When Hyacinth died, Apollo took some of his blood and created the flower we know today. Also Astarte, who was quite often depicted as a hermaphrodite, had a class of all male gay priests. They were called Kelabim.  So many more examples, to many to list.

As to why the press act as they do, you got me. To find the real "stories behind the stories", you have to dig. Pain in the ass. The press seem to take as many passes as everybody else does, not putting in the work.

And please remember, we as a community care about you, and I do personally." It is better to be pissed off than to be pissed on ". Peace to you always. Be well.

Comment by Daniel W on April 14, 2012 at 9:31am

Richard, good question.  I don't have any answers to that.  I also want to know why there are no LGBT deities.  Unfair.

 

TFA, the press should also include pro-gay religious slant when they have anti-gay religious slant.  Their so-called balance is pandering to the bigots.  There are plenty of pro-LGBT religious people and groups, so there is no excuse for what seems to be presenting the "religious" or "chrisitian" view as always being anti-LGBT.  (Sorry, I'm feeling especially pissed off lately.  Reading too many blogs, joe.my.god and holy bullies).

 

Susan, smart policy.  I should be more judicious in what I watch.

 

OK, time to be more positive.  (Yes, I keep saying that).  To counter the evil lying harpy Kalley Yanta's "Marriage Minute" and the supposedly-married-non-ring-wearing-invisible-husband Vogon Troll Maggie Gallagher, and the magisterium propagandist has-been child star Kirk Cameron, here's the cute nerdy slightly scruffy Matt Baume with lots of marriage equality related news, much positive:

 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 14, 2012 at 12:28am

Sentient....that's a very unique comparison....and dead on.  The reason these folks get media airtime is ONLY because their view has a religious slant.  And for some reason we're supposed to respect them no matter WHAT they say. 

Comment by Richard Healy on April 13, 2012 at 11:16pm
SB - re: the photos a few pages back ref "was Jesus gay?"

Why in that 2nd one does Steve Buscemi* (circa "The Big Lebowski") have a halo?




*or David Bowie, possibly.
Comment by Richard Healy on April 13, 2012 at 11:09pm
Some tough questions which was good to see. I hope he sprayed his hand with 70% ethanol after he shook it.
 

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