LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Latest Activity: Oct 10

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

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Comment by Grinning Cat on March 21, 2014 at 7:14pm

Today a federal judge overturned Michigan's marriage banAnd he demonstrated how to properly use scare quotes:

‘The Court finds Regnerus’s testimony entirely unbelievable and not worthy of serious consideration.... his 2012 study was hastily concocted at the behest of a third-party funder, which... “was confident that the traditional understanding of marriage will be vindicated by this study.” ... The funder clearly wanted a certain result, and Regnerus obliged. Whatever Regnerus may have found in this study, he certainly cannot purport to have undertaken a scholarly research effort to compare the outcomes of children raised by same-sex couples with those of children raised by heterosexual couples.’

(from Bernard Friedman's decision, pp. 13-14)

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on March 20, 2014 at 5:15pm

I don't know why there seems to be an abundance of wacko nut jobs running around Kansas, perhaps they need to test the water or something.  I watched that film "God Loves Uganda" and that pack of loony's that call themselves IHOP "International House Of Prayer" who send their packs of junior idiots to Africa and preach hatred for gay people, throw the gays in jail or kill them because they are such awful sinners. They even had to steal the letters of the pancake joint.

It seems that they were loosing ground here in the States so they decided that they could be much more successful by preaching all their hatred to the Churches in Uganda and other African countries. 

If you can get the chance to watch the film, I guarantee you will come away pissed off by the stupidity of such offensive people.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 20, 2014 at 3:50pm

What is happening to Hateboro Crutch is pretty much what happened to Scientology, and before that to Howard Hughes.... unrelated money and power-mad weasels slowly take over and push out the founders. 

Or maybe I'm thinking of the species of bird that lays its eggs in some other birds' nests, and forces them to let their own offspring starve to death while working to keep the voracious strange nestlings fed..

I dunno.

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 20, 2014 at 2:56pm

Susan, sk8eycat, LOL! Excellent analogies to people protesting equal marriage. (And I like the skating cat!)

Joan, thanks for introducing us to Al Vernacchio's TED talk explaining the problems in the baseball metaphors for sexuality, and proposing an inclusive, cooperative, delicious one: pizza!

I'll share it in Secular Sexuality as well.

A good complement to his talk is Carly Dreyfus's article "To Slide or to Slice? Finding a positive sexual metaphor".

(As Dreyfus points out, nobody gets consigned to hell for liking pineapple, spam, and M&M's on their pizza!)

 

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 20, 2014 at 2:36pm

Unfortunately, Westboro Baptist Church might well keep spreading their brand of vitriol.

Apparently Fred Phelps Sr. was excommunicated from his own church last August for "advocating a kinder approach between church members." (This after a board of male elders won a power struggle against Shirley Phelps-Roper, until recently their longtime spokeswoman.)

A Daily Kos author writes that Phelps unwittingly left a positive legacy, of making people realize they couldn't be on the site of hatred, venom, and bigotry. "People who hadn't protested anything before found ... they had to make their voices heard."

Comment by sk8eycat on March 20, 2014 at 12:54pm

Some days I wish there really was a hell..."Ding-Dong!  The Phred is dead!"  finally.  He caused enough pain and anguish for other people, and I wish he could get it all back...a"an hundredfold."

Perhaps the "loyal" children will grow up and learn a few things about real life.

"I take no solace or joy in this man's passing. We will not dance upon his grave nor stand vigil at his funeral holding "God Hates Freds" signs, tempting as it may be. He was a tormented soul, who tormented so many. Hate never wins out in the end. It instead goes always to its lonely dusty end."

From the thoughtful and classy George Takei
I'm not as classy as Sensei Takei

Comment by sk8eycat on March 16, 2014 at 2:41pm

Acknowledges laughter:

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Comment by Susan Stanko on March 16, 2014 at 12:56pm

LOL, Sk8eycat!

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 16, 2014 at 12:41pm
Comment by sk8eycat on March 16, 2014 at 11:55am

Or...a person walks into a subway, and gets angry when they sell him/her a ticket to Lower Manhattan instead of a sandwich.

 

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