LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 17
Latest Activity: 2 hours ago

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by sk8eycat on March 27, 2014 at 3:13pm

Spider didn't mention it by name, but Jef Raskin is a very good friend of his, actually something of a hero, so they probably did discuss it.  He did mention that it was a step or two past the time when they were still called "word processors."  (That's all a professional writer would have been interested in back then.)  Yeah, I don't see a 10-key pad anywhere on that keyboard.

I like the name, too.  Meeeyow! 

I still have that Macbook Leopard laptop that I don't know how to use (and my lack of learning skills caused the bust-up of a good friendship.  Or at least I thought it was a friendship.)

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 27, 2014 at 12:37pm

sk8eycat, was that computer with "instant boot-up", and where you turn it on and just type, the Canon Cat? (Appropriate that we're bringing it up! :-) I found an intriguing set of help screens, and some thoughts from designer Jef Raskin about what computers and user interfaces could be.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 26, 2014 at 11:52pm

Okay, Spider Robinson (a writer that I love dearly) wrote an article for the Toronto Globe & Mail a while back about a computer that was made by Canon that had instant boot-up.  You turned on the power and went to work.  Period..  No waiting for the desktop to rebuild itself, or any of that nonsense.

Then Canon was bought by a larger company, and the computer was discontinued immediately.

I also remember 1930's cars, we had one all during WW2, and for several years after (my toddler thru at least 2nd grade years).  Dad absolutely loved that car....I remember it had a starter that you had to step on to the right of the gas pedal...I think.

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on March 26, 2014 at 10:56pm

OK as I am from that era before time began, The early 30s cars were quite a challenge but they have now managed to come into their own. Computers are still in the Model T era.  So far computers have not got up to the point of needing a starting handle but they are near.  I can remember the days when my car, when meeting a steep hill you had to turn around and go up backwards because first gear was not low enough to do the job.  You not only had to have a spare tyre but also a repair kit with patches and glue and tyre irons because you were fortunate to cover more than 30 miles without a puncture. 

I don't expect to live long enough for computers to get up to the age equivalent to the starting handle phase.  By, say 2060, they may reach the stage where we can turn on that reliable computer box and it will do just as we expected.  Rest assured by that time something else will have come on the scene to drive humankind huts.  Cars will only exist in museums and they will have presentations about the toxic fluid that made them go.  By that time the law may allow mixed marriage of men and women even though some say it will cause unrest among traditional marriage of males to males or females to females, oh well, life goes on.

Comment by Steph S. on March 26, 2014 at 8:03pm

Thank you Daniel

Comment by sk8eycat on March 26, 2014 at 6:37pm

*cackle!*  Thank you, I needed a laugh!

Comment by Daniel W on March 26, 2014 at 6:09pm

It's a good thing cars don't make you stop at random times to upload their operating system updates.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 26, 2014 at 5:53pm

Oh, my.  I'm using Fierfocks, too...  And I'm worried about the Windoze XP loss of support, too.  I don't know that much about computers and I don't want to start froom the beginning with Unix. or Linux, or whatever..., and I certainly can't afford a new one...or even a more recent used one.  If "support" just means "no more upgrades," I think I can live with that.

Hell...I drove the same car for 30 years, and all I had to do was put gas and oil in it, and have it tuned every year or so...why can't computers be like that? 

Comment by Daniel W on March 26, 2014 at 5:19pm

Mozilla's new CEO gave $1000 to oppose marriage equality.

This story has been going around multiple LGBT web sites.

I don't know what to make of it.   $1000 is small potatoes in the political donation category.  It doesn't make him a major player in the antigay world.  The main Mozilla product that I use is the Firefox browser.  I don't pay for firefox.  I use an ad blocker so I don't see how ads could pay firefox for my use.  I don't even know how they get money.  There is boycott fatigue.  It's not a big deal to change over to a different browser, but I wonder if it's worth it because the new CEO gave $1000 4 years ago for some reason.  He has not spoken in defense of, or regretting, his action.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2014 at 12:46am

Scalia needs to get permanent lockjaw...or have a left hemisphere stroke that leaves him unable to communicate ... forever.  I have some evil wishes for Clarence Thomas, too.

Sorry, folks, but I am not a "nice" person; my nickname since 1959 has been "La Bruja del Hielo."  And I work at it when someone pisses me off, or hurts people I care about.

 

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