LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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This was 2015. Marriage Equality had not happened yet.

Discussion Forum

Thanks "Equality State"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew May 8. 10 Replies

We're targeted by the justice system

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 19. 2 Replies

Porn site puts North Carolina legislature to shame

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 29, 2016. 1 Reply

Research on Chest Binding

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Sep 28, 2016. 1 Reply

First nationwide survey of anti LGBT youth violence

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 27, 2016. 1 Reply

Supported Transgender Kids Do Fine

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 20, 2016. 2 Replies

Religious Colleges get federal pass on discrimination

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9, 2016. 3 Replies

Gay Suicide - Art Backfires

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30, 2016. 6 Replies

Caitlyn Jenner loves Ted Cruz

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Susan Stanko Mar 7, 2016. 15 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2014 at 6:21pm

Grinning Cat, you wrote, "for a fossil-fuel-free future, somehow we need to frame supporters of the fossil fuel industries as not just fossils themselves -- people think of fossils as harmless ancient artifacts -- but toxic fossils!

By framing, I assume you mean redefine how it is that we perceive supporters of the fossil fuel industries. 

OK, I am open to ideas, let's have a go at this. What do you suggest? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2014 at 5:26pm

Carl, thanks for the great story of Jessica Velez and her ability to set goals and reach them, even if they are not gender assigned. I love her spunk and the energy of her self-competence in the radio interview. 

Would it not be nice to have little boys and little girls follow their interests from their first day in school? The Community College where I taught had a mission statement that stated students would learn sex-appropriate behaviors. In reality, I trained women to find the jobs they wanted and career paths that fit their personalities and provided living wages. Many of my students became long-haul truck drivers, carpenters, electricians.

Some of the war stories they told when they returned to speak to the students who followed them amazed us. For example, one woman got a job as a truck driver. When she stopped for a potty break at a honey bucket, some male truck drivers tipped the bucket over on its door side so she couldn't get out. Another woman who went to work at Kaiser Rolling Mill was shoved into a locker with some rags soaked in acid. These, and other stories of harassment were not uncommon in those days. Some very expensive litigation finely caught the attention of the owners and shareholders and such outrageous behavior ended. 

I know I have told you this story before, but one woman hired as a truck driver of one of those trucks with tires taller than she was had a terrible time with harassment until, by accident, she ran over he state examiner's pick up and smashed it into a pancake. Her co-workers saw her as an asset from that day forward. 

These stories are nothing compared to the Rosie the Riveter stories of WW II. 

I have to add that during WW II, my mother and aunts all had jobs at Kaiser Rolling Mill during the war. They made good wages, had good benefits, and were able to support our families while our fathers were gone. After the war, all the women received "pink slips" and could not get any jobs there that paid living wages. The returning men replaced the women.  

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 20, 2014 at 1:30pm

That is a great story about Jessica Velez, who aspires to be a Navy SEAL!

And Joan, for a fossil-fuel-free future, somehow we need to frame supporters of the fossil fuel industries as not just fossils themselves -- people think of fossils as harmless ancient artifacts -- but toxic fossils!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 20, 2014 at 1:11pm

This is such a great story about a local Chicago high school student who played on her school's football team, was crowned prom king, and will now be attending the U.S. Naval Academy. 

DNAinfo Chicago

The article doesn't mention or imply her sexuality, but that doesn't matter.  I think the important point to take away from this story is that if society and parents would allow children to pursue who they truly are, without shoving them into specific gender roles, they will prosper.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 17, 2014 at 10:14pm

These are good things, indeed. More diversity in our Judicial system has the potential to put USA on a healthier tack. Now, if we could only get the Legislative branch members off their knees and doing the work of legislating, we could have some hope. 

Of course, the Executive branch needs a strong, progressive, with a vision of a fossil fuel free future. Oh there we have a new motto Power to the 4th dimension: fossil fuel free future! Try to say that fast four time.  

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 17, 2014 at 8:22pm

Great progress continues.  Gay and a man of color.

Senate confirms first openly gay black federal judge


The U.S. Senate on Tuesday for the first time confirmed an openly gay black man to become a top-level federal judge, voting 98-0 to approve President Barack Obama’s choice of Darrin Gayles for a district court in Florida.

***Judge Gayles hails from the midwest: 

Gayles – appointed to the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, one of the nation's busiest federal benches – has served as a Miami-Dade Circuit Court judge since 2011. He was born in Peoria, Illinois in 1966 and earned a law degree from the George Washington University Law School.

***From the same article, even more great progressive news:

By a vote of 52-44, senators also endorsed Obama's pick of Staci Yandle, an openly gay black woman, to serve on a federal district court in Illinois. While that is not a first, the White House said that vote was a milestone because it brought to 112 the number of female federal judges appointed by Obama, more than any previous president. She is the federal bench's second openly lesbian black woman.

In a third roll call, the Senate voted 92-4 to make Salvador Mendoza a federal district judge in Washington state. The White House said Obama has appointed the most Hispanics — 31 — to the federal bench of any president.


These appointments are extremely important because rulings by federal and state judges ultimately have the biggest impact on our everyday lives.  It's great to see the face of our judicial courts becoming more representative of our true population. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 15, 2014 at 2:19am

Joan, I couldn't agree with you more about your assessment of Daniel.  Truer words cannot be spoken of his character. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 15, 2014 at 12:17am

Oh Daniel! I am so sorry. To be young, alive, and have to hide who you are creates scars that make you strong, like scar tissue. Well, the struggle goes on, even as things are getting better. 

The good news is, your experiences haven't made you hard; rather you have a compassion and empathy and sensitivity to emotional pain of others. You stand heads and shoulders over the bigots of the world. You have courage and wisdom born of challenges.

Now, finding joys in the simple pleasures of life, having loyal and faithful friends who care about you, and a partner that you share your life, and the lovely animals that also share your life. There are blessing for which you can be grateful, and I know you are.


Comment by Daniel W on June 14, 2014 at 8:19pm

Back in the early 80s when I lived in W. Lafayette, Indiana, police were entrapping gay men and after arresting them, published their names in the newspaper.  Careers ended and some wound up thrown out of their homes.  I had dated a guy who was arrested, and he lost his career. I wondered if I was next. When I finished my degree there, I moved to the Pacific NW. It was not heaven - the homophobic Oregon Citizen's Alliance was active and effective, and white supremists were also in the news in Oregon.  But compared to Indiana, I felt like it was a new Spring.  This video reminded me of those times.

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 10, 2014 at 11:22am

Not grinning about this:

Hawaii middle-schoolers' parents will have to opt-in for sex ed, after a state rep's campaign to eliminate the program over fears it was "normalizing" homosexuality.

(I wish I could have posted the discussion here, in Secular Sexuality, and in Parenting Little Heathens simultaneously!)


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