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Who was it who said:
"Religion is like a penis.
It's fine to have one. It's fine to be proud of it.
But please don't wave it around in public.
And do not try to shove it down my children's throats."
Hopefully one day indoctrinating children into religious beliefs will be recognized as child abuse.
What do you think of the freedom of parents to shove religion down their childrens' throats? Where does that freedom end and the freedom of the child start?
I went to Catholic school through 8th grade, and by then I'd had more than a lifetime supply. Religious freedom is a good thing, and an important thing. But let's not forget that it means everyone's free to believe whatever bullshit they want. It doesn't mean they get to shove it down other people's throats.
Those arguments are akin to "I don't care if you're gay. Just don't kiss or hold hands in public or tell me you're gay. Why do you feel the need to shove it down my throat?"
Bertold, that sounds just like arguments I heard when I was a kid, discouraging interracial male-female couples from marrying and having children because their children would be harassed. (And their children wouldn't have a clear identity and heritage, etc.)
Andrew & GC - one of my favorite arguments coming out of the metastasized-hypocrisy-persecution complex is that gay couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt because their children will be harassed. Never mind that it's precisely these very same assholes doing the harassing.
Ruth has written before about the Persecutor-Victim-Rescuer triangle, a pattern in which people see and define themselves exclusively in terms of those three roles. Notably, if you're a victim (in reality or imagination) long enough, you collect "anger stamps" and "self-pity stamps" which you can cash in for "free" attacks and persecution on your (real or imagined) persecutors, all morally OK because "they deserve it!"
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