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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Welcome to Gay / LGBTQI Atheists & friends!

I will be taking a reduced role at Atheist Nexus as of Oct 1, 2017. I will not be moderating this group after that time, and I will be re-zeroing most of my groups and comments.

That will leave this group without a moderator. Since this group was started by a member who hasn't visited Nexus for many years, it is not possible to select or designate a moderator. Instead, I will send notification to Br. Richard that the group will be without a moderator. It will then be up to him to decide how to proceed.

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Discussion Forum

Porn site puts North Carolina legislature to shame

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jul 17. 2 Replies

Fascist Anti-Gay Backlash Can Escalate Fast

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 13. 4 Replies

L.A. Pride parade morphs into #ResistMarch

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew Jun 13. 2 Replies

Thanks "Equality State"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew May 8. 10 Replies

We're targeted by the justice system

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 19. 2 Replies

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Comment by Andrew on June 30, 2017 at 7:49pm
Sounds like new tyrannical institutions have replaced the old ones.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 30, 2017 at 12:30pm

Andrew, unfortunately I think the vast majority of the Russian population is quite intolerant toward LGBTQ's.  As a country, they haven't moved socially forward with this issue as other countries have.  When you have the influence of the ultra-conservative Russian Orthodox Church and a bigoted, tyrannical government working in tandem to shape the social views of the entire country, the general population doesn't know any better.  Media is strictly controlled and dissenting opinions are not tolerated.  Generation after generation is brainwashed to be homophobic. That's a difficult cycle to break.  It's so troubling to see this kind of systemic hatred.

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 30, 2017 at 12:08pm

I also wonder how large of a role the Russian Orthodox Church has had in shaping people's attitudes there.

Comment by Andrew on June 30, 2017 at 10:09am
I'd be really afraid that I'd wind up in jail, not on a flight. I wonder if Russians are really that intolerant, or if it's just the dictatorship they live under.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 30, 2017 at 9:50am

Russian TV offers gay people one-way tickets to leave

A Russian religious television channel is offering to pay for one-way plane tickets for gay people serious about emigrating from the country.

"Just recently, California - the most liberal state in the USA by the way - proposed to facilitate the granting of green cards to Russian perverts," said TV host Andrei Afanasyev.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-40456443

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 30, 2017 at 7:22am

World Alert: Germany legalizes gay marriage in parliamentary vote

Comment by Plinius on June 19, 2017 at 11:37pm

I think the rat race is getting much worse, and young people are more than ever unable to look outside their own bubble. 

Comment by Daniel W on June 19, 2017 at 10:47am

Joan, I'm sure you are right about aging activists.

What I'm feeling these days is that the young are more puritanical in their habits of judging, intolerance of diverse opinion, and knee-jerk opinions.  I am sure there was that 30 or 40 years ago, too, but it seems much more these days.  It is true that when I was young, my community was dealing with illness and death everywhere, there was discrimination everywhere, discovery by itself commonly led to loss of job and family, and we were openly demonized by the US President, by mainstream big-name ministers, and sometimes the only thing to do was leave and start life again somewhere else - a chance not everyone has.  In the late 80s, I went through the death of my partner and then my best friend, 3 months apart, I lived for a while out of my car, and worked 3 minimum wage jobs while going to school full time.  I know very well that others go through their own kind of hardships, and some don't have the opportunities that I had.  Although I wound up working too long and hard to fit volunteering into my later life, I did contribute financially to organizations that promote racial development and opportunity, and racial community building, because that is where I think some of the most difficult human uplifting is needed.

When the young vilify older people who don't fit their hierarchy of underprivilege, and don't toe the politically correct line that they trumpet, they are no better than the oppressors.  Often, they are blind to the fact that they do oppress others, such as via gentrification, and through ageism,and sometimes through racism.  What is needed is to open lines of communication, not have people shouting and judging each other, and manufacturing ever more intricate intersectional oppressionism.  They need to get out of their insular communities and learn the other point of view.  That goes for both sides of the liberal - conservative spectrum.  And everyone needs to know it's not a binary system, that once in a while their own side is wrong and the other side has some valid points.

I agree with you about gardening, enjoying companionship from our own species and other animals, having a sense of wonder, self nurturing by puttering and cooking.  That is where I need to concentrate my efforts these days!

On the other hand, Vancouver has a pride day in the central square, in July.  It's more low key than Portland Pride, more diverse age-wise, and I think we will go to that.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2017 at 6:05pm

There is something that happens as activists get older, it seems we get tired and a new generation takes over the struggle, some with very different goals and themes. I remember those early days when women wanted the vote, blacks and minorities wanted access to opportunity, physically handicapped wanted to be able to get around in wheelchairs, elders wanted protection from poverty in old age, children wanted to not be hit, physically, as they developed, and countless other campaigns.  

All those human rights came into being to one extent or another after horrendous struggles. The younger generation benefit from those efforts and they stand on the shoulders of giants, unaware, all too often, of the history of hardships imposed on people because of race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, poverty, and ignorance. 

I am too tired to engage in action and even discussion wears me out. Life as we know it may be coming to an end and I haven't got the stamina to do anything but read about permaculture, putter in my greenhouse, and tend to my few raised beds. I have nice chats with other permaculturists; they are a friendly lot! 

I choose not to say, "God help us all!"

I do choose to write about my garden and read about others' gardens. 

I also choose to find something full of wonder each and every day and wallow in my gratitude.

Comment by Daniel W on June 18, 2017 at 5:00pm

Today was the Portland Pride parade.  I didnt go.  I dont feel like I belong.  I read comments on various social media, and I felt that several identities that describe me have been vilified and scapegoated in the young progressive media:  older, white, cisgendered gay male.  Too bad, without my generation, the millenial lgbt community would be living like we did.  I wasnt a good way to live.  Let them be self rightious about putting white burrito truck ladies out of business for supposed cultural appropriation, while basking in their gentrified progresive white mecca.  I didnt have a lot of energy anyway.  I dont belong with conservatives, bg a long, long shot, but probably not with liberals any more either.  Good luck to them anyway.

 

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