LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 17
Latest Activity: Oct 10

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 17, 2017 at 8:44pm

Kathy, I wonder if they know the stories of those who have been harassed, tortured and murdered in the U.S. because the victim was gay?

I wonder if your grandson and his husband know the struggles to get such crimes listed as "Hate" crimes? 

The Southern Povery Law Center was an important part of our team in Spokane when charges were ready to be filed and argued in court.

I read their newsletters and here is one that your and your grandson and his partner need to know and understand. 

ALLIANCE DEFENDING FREEDOM 

"Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that specializes in supporting the recriminalization of homosexuality abroad, ending same-sex marriage, and generally making life as difficult as possible for LGBT communities in the U.S. and internationally. "

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 17, 2017 at 7:41pm

Andrew, I LOVE  your  bumperstickers!

Iyour  bumper stickers!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 17, 2017 at 7:30pm

Daniel, Sadly, I can't understand the audio in "muslim gay marriage in UK". 

It is extremely difficult for so many of us to break away from toxic families, religions, attitudes, traditions, and values. We fail to see that we are part of a magnificent universe and we receive so many very valuable senses as part of our makeup. Each element of our being contains the energy to open up into a fully functioning human being, just as a rose opens up to be a fully functioning flower. Families and religions too often get in the way of human development. They try to mold others to be something different. 

I hereby declare by the authority vested in me by the universe, this is 

Bastille Day

I declare this day, __________, as a turning point in my life and a celebration of discovering who I am, what I feel, what I want, and what I need to make me productive, healthy and happy. I feel like a parade and party marking this day as the first day of the rest of MY life!

 

 

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on July 17, 2017 at 12:41pm
Gratitude feels good, but those who made today's rights and freedoms possible have to proudly pat their own backs.

Laying the gratitude burden on the young will keep them from pushing for the subtle rights and freedoms that were too well hidden for their elders to see.
Comment by Loren Miller on July 17, 2017 at 12:06pm

About all I can stack being gay and religious up to, Daniel, is a combination of indoctrination, cultural pressure, and ignorance of their holy books.  When I look at the vehemence with which some fundamentalists go after the LGBTQ community, I can't imagine supporting ANY branch of religion, no matter how liberal they might be.

Comment by Daniel W on July 17, 2017 at 10:40am

For the life of me, I can't understand why gay people stay with their religions, when it's clear that they are picking and choosing what their gods like, even with the knowledge that their gods most like to see them reviled, tortured, and killed.  However, if their visibility and continued community in their religions, bring about more acceptance, then I suppose it's a good thing.

Comment by Daniel W on July 17, 2017 at 10:35am

Kathy, I agree with you about the gift that prior generations of LGBT people have given to future generations.  Unfortunately, ageism is as present in LGBT populations, as it is in the straight world.  Not universal, but common.

Trying again on video regarding a muslim gay marriage in UK.

We can though in some Hindu - Lutheran influence at a wedding in California.

Comment by kathy: ky on July 15, 2017 at 11:12pm
Carl, most of you know my oldest grandson is gay and married his husband a year ago. I've reminded him more than once that his generation has had it relatively easy. To be openly gay now, compared to thirty or even twenty years ago, is not the harsh path that it was then. The young ones owe a huge debt of gratitude to the prior generations.
Comment by Andrew on July 14, 2017 at 11:40pm
An aside: today I saw a bumper sticker that said, "I'm gay and I vote". Pretty remarkable considering its an especially conservative place even for Texas. On the same bumper, "Come the rapture, can I have your car?" :)
Comment by Plinius on July 14, 2017 at 3:35am

I love the interview, Carl! And it is important to remember - LGBT-friendly shops here are marked with a sticker that bears the name of the last gay who was executed in this town in the 19th century. Gruesome to think of.

The Gay Muslim Marriage video, doesn't work here.

 

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