LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: Nov 16

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 20, 2017 at 10:33am

Daniel - Here's Mel White's Wiki. Needless to say, having acquired a hubby in 2008 didn't endear him to his fellow evangelicals.

Comment by Daniel W on October 19, 2017 at 9:23pm

Your Chrome is better than my Firefox :-)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 19, 2017 at 2:58pm

The link still works with my Chrome.

Comment by Daniel W on October 19, 2017 at 2:27pm

As long as I'm posting issues about why LGBTI isn't the same as eye color or whether someone has freckles, Marketwatch reports that 56% of LGBT workers report workplace harassment.  Around 40% left jobs for that reason.  Quoting the Marketwatch article, workplace harassment included  "being ignored by others, being held to different standards, facing gossip and being excluded from projects or meetings".   That pretty much describes years of my own career, even though asshole bigots usually don't tell you, "Im holding you up to a different standard, spreading malicious gossip about you, excluding you from projects and meetings, because you are gay".  What I will add is, the politically correct response of  "that's just straight white men who do that" is not correct.  In my case, it was mainly women, and as many were ethnic / racial minority as not.

Comment by Daniel W on October 19, 2017 at 11:56am

BB, somehow your article doesn't load now.  I remember reading about Mel White, somewhere in the recesses of my memory.    In a similar vein, there's a story going around about a partly-Jewish, gay, neoNazi.  Now former neo-Nazi.  WaPo.

I have known a gay Muslim and more recently a lesbian woman who converted to Islam.  Mind boggling.

Harrowing image from VOA.  In Azerbaijan, more than 80 arrests, in Eqypt more than 50, one of those for a Facebook page.  Another article states more than 60.   In Indonesia, more than 50 arrested.  Some are undergoing torture.  In Egypt, they are being entrapped with apps and with internet chat room traps.  Reason for arrest can include "Joining a banned group".  I imagine an atheist group would be an excuse for arrest although I doubt they know enough to ban Nexus.  Russia may criminalize "gay propaganda" although I thought they already did that.  Newsweek.  Not sure what is going on now in Chechnya, maybe they already killed everyone, or at least silenced them and they are underground there now.   NYTimes. 

I would like to see something good for us, somewhere.  Maybe Australia will legalize marriage equality after their mail vote, but don't count on it.  After all, their former prime minister was an Atheist woman, Julia Guillard,  who lived "in sin" with her opposite sex partner, and moved to protect "traditional marriage".  I guess she subsequently changed her mind. sort of.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 10, 2017 at 3:14pm

Thanks for re-opening this group, Daniel.

Here's an interesting interview with a guy named Mel White. CONTENT WARNING: The interviewee is still a religionist, but quite a fascinating one. He was raised as an evangelical, mounted a highly successful film and writing career, and knew on an intimate basis most of the rogues' gallery of infamous right wing hate mongers, including Betsy DeVoss. 
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Now he's an outspoken opponent of fundamentalism, and not shy about it. He thinks Billy Graham senior was basically well-meaning, but that the Junior version is an evil fascist. He has had quite an amazing history.

Comment by Daniel W on October 10, 2017 at 12:07pm

Some bad things in the news for LGBT people.

Mass arrest of gay men and transgender people in Egypt.  NYTimes.

Mass arrest of gay men in Indonesia.

NYTimes.

I don't know what to do about those events.

Anglicans donate  million dollars to fight marriage equality in australia.  Christian Post.

We live in trying times. More trying for some than for others.

Comment by Daniel W on October 10, 2017 at 11:57am

Group is open for comment page. Please read text box above. The group moderator (administrator) does not have the ability to remove old comment posts, even if those members are no longer present. I cleaned up the membership list, to include only members who I recognize as being active on this group, and on Nexus. If I have erred in that, I apologize.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 29, 2017 at 10:46pm

Comment by Daniel W on September 29, 2017 at 2:59pm

He changed some things about America, especially regarding sexual freedom and probably reducing the religiosity some as well.  good for him.  Lived a long life, too.

 

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