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Does Obama's gay advocacy exclude trans

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 27. 5 Replies

Betty Bowers on PRIDE

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Daniel W Jun 5. 1 Reply

Gay christians.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Gerald Payne May 13. 2 Replies

Boycotting Indiana

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 12. 12 Replies

Per Right Wing Watch, The Nuts Are Really Coming after the Fruits

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Apr 10. 2 Replies

Discrimination by nontheists?

Started by Jacob Dreiling. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 27. 15 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on July 16, 2015 at 5:35pm

This video was embedded on Hemant Mehta's website.

Kind of a treat. I guess we could look at candles as emblematic of the fires of hell.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 14, 2015 at 2:44pm

It's always much easier to find a lover than a true friend, but if a lover isn't at least one of your best friends, what's the point?

Comment by Daniel W on July 14, 2015 at 2:36pm

From BBC,40 great quotations about marriage.

Note, those are all about heterosexual marriage. Many are about how the sexes have different temperaments, expectations, comforts, excitements, opportunities, etc.  However, there is one I particularly found meaningful:

“It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages”

German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)

Comment by sk8eycat on July 12, 2015 at 4:18pm

I have known for decades that conservatives of all types need something, or somebody, to hate. It's part of their nature.

I remember watching the Berlin Wall being destroyed and wondering (knowing it was not the end) who was going to be the next target of the religious wrong..(Even though the xians had nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR.  That was a foregone conclusion when the old Bolsheviks started dying off.)

If non-undergodders are the next target, I think we'll be in deep doo-doo because the Islamic fanatics will probably join them.... while fighting each other at the same time. 

I sincerely hope I'll be dead by then.

Comment by Daniel W on July 12, 2015 at 2:35pm

Bill Nye on homosexuality and evolution.

What a lame answer. It's nice that he was supportive, but apparently he hasn't read anything on the topic since Desmond Morris' "The Naked Ape" in the 60s. There is so much more information. It's well known that in nature, same sex attraction is common for many species. Has Nye heard of something called "Google"?  He could have read this BBC article, or many others.

Much as I like that Nye is a spokesperson for science and rationality, this response was lame.  Too bad for that.

Comment by Daniel W on July 12, 2015 at 1:25pm

No question we will continue to experience discrimination for the rest of our lives.  In addition to the overt discrimination, which we often see and read about, many people will continue to discriminate covertly, and lie while doing it.

One thing I will not do is let the assholes get me down.  I've lived through too much, worked too hard, seen too much.  This is our one life, and I will live it the best I can.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 12, 2015 at 11:27am

VERY good point, Carl, one I've made myself elsewhere.  Equal rights means IN ALL VENUES, including employment and in patronizing services and businesses, and this is very likely to be one more fight toward completely securing those rights.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 12, 2015 at 11:12am

I don't think the GOP and the religious "right" is finished quite yet with demonizing the LGBTQI community.  Yes, we have finally been given equality when it comes to marriage, but there is still a lot of legally sanctioned discrimination still on the books in many states.  We have a lot of opposition ahead of us.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 12, 2015 at 6:17am

Daniel, as it comes to the GOP looking for "another group to demonize," ultimately I still think they may settle on US - atheists.  The problem with such a decision is similar to that with the Mexicans: we're growing in numbers while they're shrinking.

I think this behavior and its history need to be pointed out publicly.  Not only is scapegoating minorities a reflection of their insecurity and an insult to the egalitarian policies which represent the US at its best, it just plain doesn't work in the long run.  If they want to lean on small government and lean spending, traditional Republican planks, I'm fine with that, though I'll still oppose it where it goes too far, but their religiously driven social policies went beyond the pale 10 squares back.

It's time for the GOP to grow up and drop their belief in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and Yahweh.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 12, 2015 at 12:46am

When God was a female, sex with any man was part of her sacred rites, and inheritance (and power) were through the mother's line.

When the Levites, and other male-god worshippers, took over (by conquest) heterosexual marriage became the only acceptable system because each man wanted to make sure each baby was his.  Not taking into consideration the possibility that his wife MIGHT have another lover or three.  This is how all the woman-hating verses crept into the buybull.

I wonder if women who loved other women had anything like turkey-basters, and a willing man on the side....

 

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