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A TED talk on gay around the world.
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 27.
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 20.
Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jun 22.
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 12.
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9.
Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30.
Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by Susan Stanko Mar 7.
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 31.
Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 18, 2015.
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26, 2015.
Daniel & Grinning Cat, thanks for the listing of options. I think if I had such a partner, male or female, married or not, I would call him or her "Spice". You guys make my day.
Daniel: calling your partner "Who died and made you Emperor?" - heh!
I've encountered a few married female-male* couples that refer to each other as their partners. And I'm all for rejecting the narrow gender roles implied in the etymology of "husband" ("male head of a household, master of a house", whereas "wife" once meant simply "woman").**
(And I do know one male-female couple who'll sometimes semi-jokingly call each other "Spouse".***)
I also see "wife" and "husband" as entrenched, widely understood words for spouses, words that have shifted from their original connotations. My impression is that men talking about their husbands, and women talking about their wives, have helped many straight people see same-sex marriage for what it is: not some separate institution of "gay marriage" but a natural part of marriage.
But whatever particular partners call each other (politely, in public, and without trying to impose roles on the rest of us, like someone insisting they be addressed as "Lord and Master"), I'll follow their lead.
* Interesting how various expressions such as "male and female", "husband and wife", "he or she", invariably put the man first. When I'm paying attention I often consciously break that pattern. ("'Man' is a false generic, as in 'Man, being a mammal, breastfeeds his young.'")
** Other languages can be worse: I remember reading about Israeli feminists proposing a replacement for the Hebrew term for "husband", which is literally the same word as "master, lord, owner", whereas "wife" is the same word as "woman". They suggested that a man's spouse refer to him as "my man", parallel to how a woman's spouse refers to her as "my woman". No idea how well that caught on.
*** The plural of "spouse" might well be "spice", for some! :)
I hate to admit my ignorance, but how do GLBTQ refer to their partners?
Funny - God must have been trying to flood the houses of evil people and got Tony's by mistake. Where's all that omniscience and omnipotence when they need it??? No doubt Pat Robertson will have a wet dream explaining this riddle wrapped in an enigma swaddled in bullshit.
As it comes to enemas, I can think of a couple GOP candidates who could do with some alimentary cleaning out ... mostly 'cuz they're full of shit!
@Daniel - yes, with friends like these, who needs enemas?
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