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Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by Darren Taggart on November 26, 2011 at 3:51pm
I have tattoos and i'm just awful ;-)
Comment by Dominic Florio on November 26, 2011 at 3:20pm

Sure, there are many biggoted gay people, but the danger is that preference can be mistaken for some ism.  I am heavy set and I know that there are many who are not going to be attracted to me, but I do fine in the sex department.  It is hurtfull, not when somone is not attracted to you, but when people, gay or straight, feel that it is ok to comment on the appearance of someone else. 

I think Cory is an attractive guy, but I am not usually attracted to asians or black men.  I like whites and hispanics, but I'm also not generally attracted to people with red hair, but I don't have an actual rule.  It depends on the person.

When any group experiences a lot of prejudice and/or discrimination, it is sometimes difficult to separate those experiences from preference.  Years ago, a black man was trying to pick me up in a bar and I was very polite and told him that I was with friends.  He stated that it was because he was black.  Well it was, but not based on racism, it was based on the fact that I don't have a strong sexual response to black men.

It would never occur to me to judge his appearance or comment in a negative way about him, because of the color of his skin.  But, I am amazed over the insensitivity and lack of manners which some people exhibited when dealing with anyone who does not fit the "normal" standard of beauty.

Being a 52 yr old "bear" type, I often feel as if I'm treated as a fetish because I'm not 20, blonde, smooth, and a gym rat. All I can say is that we older more experienced men know things that those twinks haven't learned yet.  So there! 

 

 

Comment by Darren Taggart on November 26, 2011 at 3:07pm
Racism is the theory that the colour of someone's skin allows you to infer some behavioural trait or propensity. Not finding a white person or whatever unattractive isn't racist, any more than being gay is sexist; it's just a function of taste. That said it might seem a bit shallow for appearance to be a deal breaker. That said my grandparents kissing is gross...
Comment by Tenken on November 26, 2011 at 12:34am

@Sentient
Thanks for the video.  I didn't realize there was discrimination like that against "Asians."  To be completely honest, I never thought of them as people "of color," as the guy in the video referred to himself.  It's hard for me to blame people for not being attracted to people of color, as my attraction definitely has limits too.  Is it conditioned?  Probably.  Could it be overcome?  Perhaps, but I have no real desire to change even if it could.

Comment by Tenken on November 26, 2011 at 12:00am

Sentient, you can read into it what you want, but his words are exactly how I feel.  He doesn't just think "sexuality is diverse"; he thinks sexuality is so diverse that it can't be "reduced to binary terms."  Even in the time of our discussion on here, I have included links that attack the construct validity of dichotomous sexual orientation, which is exactly what Vidal has done.  It's kind of like pointing out the absurdity that anyone would be biologically exclusively attracted to one sex when sexuality is so complex.

For the record, I do see how a man of your faith could interpret it differently, as if sexuality is so complex that it cannot be accurately defined by singling out one attribute like sex.  Doing so might even be deceptive, but not necessarily untrue.

Comment by Gary F. Lord on November 25, 2011 at 11:48pm

Thank you The Nerd.  Just asked to be a member. 

Comment by Gary F. Lord on November 25, 2011 at 8:45pm

Hi all...first time I post here but watching these videos is making me feel not too bad about being teased in high school......really.  I can't believe that was the way it was back then.

Comment by Tenken on November 25, 2011 at 7:16pm

@Sentient
Just out of curiosity, what is it that you think separates Vidal's view from any other view that all humans have the potential to be attracted to both sexes (aka "are bisexual") that gives his more validity?

@Dallas Gaytheist
I think Gore Vidal is me?  Also, that propaganda video is terrible...  I hate how harmful ignorance can be...

Comment by dr kellie on November 25, 2011 at 12:39pm

It was rumored that Rock Hudson and Anthony Perkins had some flings.  Hot!

 

Admitting to having gay sex but saying you didn't like it...uh, yeah.  That's kind of like saying you smoked pot but didn't inhale. 

Comment by Tenken on November 24, 2011 at 9:13am

Thanks for the video, Sentient!  It's interesting and encouraging to draw parallels with modern issues for me.  Also, who was that man at 6:30?  What he said is applicable even today.  It's amazing he could say something so progressive that it still needs to be said 40+ years later.  I tried searching for his quote, but I only got 1 hit on reddit with no name.

 

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