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Comment by Daniel W on August 19, 2011 at 9:09pm
Coming into this late.... and just to put in my own 2 cents. I empathize with someone who, having had relatives die in the holocaust, saw a cartoon which trivialized that memory. I admit my own sense of humor is very dry and very cynical. Gallows humor. So I should laugh at that cartoon, but all I could think was that the artist must be compensating for a very small penis and the fact that people point at him and laugh in the shower room.
Comment by Darren Taggart on August 19, 2011 at 2:21pm
Yeah he looks almost... vulnerable, you know? ;)
Comment by Dominic Florio on August 19, 2011 at 1:09pm

Humor is subjective, but I often enjoy racist, sexist etc humor.  Everyone who knows me, knows that I'm none of those things.  I'm laughing at a stereotype.  I am also smart enough, not to tell these types of jokes around people who do not know me well.  I do not want them to think that I believe in the premise of the joke or that I want to spread hate.

In my view, the recent controversy over Tracey Morgan's comments, saying that he would stab his son if he was gay, just wasn't funny, at least to me.  He could have portrayed himself as a homophobe and I could find humor in that, but the violence turned me off.  I guess we all have our limits.

Here is an example of a joke that left me laughing and uncomfortable, at the same time.  Many times, we deal with tragic situations with humor, but it in no way trivializes the severity of the situation or the need for society to take positive actions to make life better for all.

"A child molester and a little girl were walking into the woods at dusk.  The little girl looked up at the child molester and stated that she was scared.  The child molseter commented, "How do you think I feel, I have to walk back alone in the dark."

Maybe the difference between this and Tracey Morgan, is that although the actions of the child molester are shocking, they are not out of the ordinary for the character.  The humor lies in the fact that we switch our attention away from the violence and onto the unexpected emotion of the molester.

The actions of Tracey Morgan, as a homophobic dad, were not in line with the situation.  It could have been funny if he said something such as, he was going to force his son to read muscle magazines until he became straight, as an example.

But again, I guess it is all subjective.  It helps to know the mindset and intent of the person telling or posting the jokes.

I taught handicapped kids for years and I love handicap jokes.  But let someone make fun of one of my kids while we were out in public, and I would want to tear them a new one. 

Comment by Darren Taggart on August 19, 2011 at 10:47am

I've just seen a post from some woman on here where she was having a go at another member for telling an 'offensive' joke on the Atheist humour page.  This sort of thing is so irritating and depressing. As Stephen Fry asked, so fucking what if you find something offensive? Who cares? Being offended isn't some horrific injury or reasonable position, it's just whinging isn't it? Just a whine. 

It's an emotional response to someone when you feel some line in your head has been crossed; as though there are some sacred things you're not supposed to joke about, which is often what we have a go at 'Believers' for.

I think it's often just another way for we apes to get one up on each other, as though being more serious about something improves your argument, or makes you look more mature, which is very important apparently.

That's not to say that nothing offends me, just that I'd feel sanctimonious (and now very hypocritical) moaning about it!

Comment by Dominic Florio on August 17, 2011 at 3:35pm

Birds, including geese, absolutely mourn their dead mates.  They often do pair up with new mates, after a period of time.  The bonds are very strong and hunting would certainly destroy the natural order of things, being that there would be a high number of losses, as compared to an occassional loss.

I have had all types of pets throughout my life and I have a mini sanctuary at my home.  Gayness runs throughout the animal kingdom, and I am not talking about one animal mounting another animal, because of dominance.


Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on August 17, 2011 at 2:21pm
Yes, they did.
Comment by Grace Fitzpatrick on August 17, 2011 at 1:30pm

Doesn't it depend on the type of bird though?  I have heard that if a goose's mate dies, it will also die in grief.  It was in the local paper in an article on wild life management to keep hunters from killing a lot of geese willy nilly. 


An interesting note, I had two gay male cats who were very devoted to each other, when one died, the other went totally out of his mind.  He was already heading down the path of cat Alzhemier's, but that sent him way over the edge.  Cats are not known for their faithfulness, but these two obviously couldn't live without each other.

Comment by Dominic Florio on August 17, 2011 at 11:06am
What is interesting is that the photo is of a male and female.  Anyway, another fact about monogamy and birds is that birds will sometimes sneak off and cheat on each other, but return to continue the relationship with their mate.  The nestlings are not always 100% the offspring of her mate.  So in other words, they are loyal to preserving the relationship, but enjoy some sexual activity on the side.
Comment by Daniel W on August 16, 2011 at 11:39pm
Some gay birds have lifelong monogamous relationships.

"the same-sex couples showed the same behaviour to each other as opposite-sex couples did, including nesting together, singing to each other, perching side by side and greeting each other."

No word on whether one bird pressured the other to do a complete nest remodel, unlike a certain gay homo sapiens I could mention.
Comment by Daniel W on August 15, 2011 at 9:57pm
I'm so tired of having a bogeyman around every corner. She doesn't even have the integrity to stand up for her own, openly stated views.


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