LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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Comment by vegantiger on May 12, 2012 at 10:45pm

I was born intergendered/intersexed and would love to add to the discussion. My wife and I just moved so I haven't been commenting much lately. Thanks for posting the video. It was actually one of the first ones I saw to describe what I felt was wrong with me all along but didn't have the words to express it other than praying I would wake up from this nightmare one day as a boy. I remember crying a lot and then getting very, very angry. I studied all about transgender issues for the next two years finally finding out from my mom that I was operated on at birth and made into a girl. They are claiming to be stopping this practice and at least choosing male for children so surgery is not so difficult. It's easier to make a girl than a boy. I certainly blame religion for trying to make a two gender society and doctors acting like gods to make sure. More and more evidence is suggesting there are certainly more than two genders. Only time will tell if humanity can be properly educated to include more terminology so everyone can feel accepted as human beings instead of being treated like trashy, sub-human, freaks. I know not everyone is happy calling it a birth defect, but it feels that way for me and seems easier to explain to others in that manner as well as getting insurance companies to cover it like any other birth defect would be. I can say from experience that it would be much better to leave children alone and let them tell their parents what gender they are since that occurs as soon as two years old; just not make it mandatory that they choose a gender. Some countries now have a third gender or at least an "other" category which is nice. In one way I wish this had never happened to me and yet I've learned so much about humanity, life, people, gender differences/samenesses, hormones, etc. It's an interesting journey. I'm still not complete surgically but I'm just starting my bottom surgeries this month; finally! I've been "transitioning" for over 10 years now; hate that word because I've always known I was male. Still have several years to go with surgeries but I'm relieved it's now here! If anyone has questions, I'd be happy to answer them! :-)

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 12, 2012 at 8:21pm

Not my apartment.  I'm much more old school.  I actually have a Victrola and View Masters for my guests to enjoy.  

Comment by Daniel W on May 12, 2012 at 8:02pm

Im just shocked!  The book case appears to contain record albums and VCR Tapes.  I bet they're betamax.  Oh the horror!

On a better note, the baby blue does flatter your eyes.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 12, 2012 at 7:39pm

Me on the right in my silly mid-twenties. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 12, 2012 at 7:27pm

P.S. Joan.  If I were to dress in drag, I'd much prefer Oxfords.  I don't do very well in heels. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 12, 2012 at 7:21pm

Joan, please don't let us scare you away.  Dallas is one of our outstanding members......well, usually (lol).  Many of us have a tendency to remove our shoes, step off the curb and enjoy a short diversion through the gutter from time to time.  When in Rome......   You might even find a topic of mutual interest to discuss with your hip grandchildren and surprise them with your newly found knowledge.  You're always welcome here.  And personally, from me to you....thanks for being such a wonderful supporter and friend of the LGBTQ community.  The "coolness" of your background far exceeds your perceived prudishness.       

Comment by Susan Stanko on May 12, 2012 at 5:09pm

No need to apologize for the long response.  I actually hadn't considered that someone wouldn't identify as either gender.  It is so unusual for me that I forget that people like the nerd exist.

Comment by Daniel W on May 12, 2012 at 4:54pm

Susan, me too.  Also, in many cases, there is no "right gender" - some people are truly intersex and choosing a gender imposes an identity on them, and surgical changes to the body, even if neither gender is right.  The expression "first, do no harm" comes to mind.  I also wish they would use language to say there are variations of nature, rather then errors of nature.  Diversity is not an error, and in fact a propensity toward diversity is the basis for evolution, even if a particular individual does not reproduce.  Sorry for the long response - I agree with you.

Comment by Susan Stanko on May 12, 2012 at 4:54pm

Now, I am going to associate that pic with you Joan.

Comment by Susan Stanko on May 12, 2012 at 4:35pm

I really wish they would wait until a kid self identifies with a gender before picking one for them.  I have heard stories were the parent guessed wrong.


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