LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 17
Latest Activity: Oct 10

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Richard Healy on April 15, 2012 at 7:13pm
"Well, some people like being pissed on."

I've met one.

That was one weird-ass night I'd not care to repeat in a hurry....
Comment by annet on April 15, 2012 at 6:59pm


The hope of the COMMITMENT | NC documentary project is that by discovering the stories and struggles of same-sex couples and others with real love and commitment to each other, North Carolinians will in turn vote to commit our state to protecting equal rights for all under the law, which is the function of all constitutions.


Comment by Tony Carroll on April 15, 2012 at 10:37am

Will check it out. One final thing I learned about most of them,(our ancestors), the ones with a codified pantheon of dieties, is that they were all considered, to one extent or another, a reflection, an avatar, a manifestation of the primary god/goddess. Kinda like a roundabout form of monotheism. One primary, with many subsequent "flavors", depending on your needs at the time. And since all were a projection of the human psyche, all forms of life needed its own avatar. Very interesting. Stuff like this really helps one understand humanity at large. Guess that's why it always fascinated me. Anyhoo, be well, my friend. Until later, peace.

Comment by Daniel W on April 15, 2012 at 10:09am

Tony, here's a link to wikipedia, the source of all knowledge :-) on LGBT deities and semideities.  I regard these legends as similar to sci fi but with historic meaning because people either believed the stories or enjoyed telling them in the past.  They are fun to read.


Aztec god "Xochipilli was the god of art, games, beauty, dance, flowers, maize, and song... also the patron of homosexuals and homosexual prostitutes... complex set of associations including the role of entertainer, the love of exotic foods and perfumes, male gender variance, and same-sex eroticism" - sort of the Liberace of the Aztec pantheon. (Anyone who doesn't know who Liberace was can google on him).

Comment by Daniel W on April 15, 2012 at 9:33am

Dallas, sometimes I'm left speechless.  Just speechless.

On another note, Sweden continues to move toward gender neutrality, replacing "boys and girls" with "buddies" in school, and replacing the he/she pronoun (in Swedish the gender neutral pronoun is "hen").  I may be in the minority, but my own preference is toward embracing gender.   However, at least acceptance of the new pronoun gives a sense of choice about expression.

Comment by Tony Carroll on April 14, 2012 at 9:24pm

SB,I guess all this reading of myths from my youth is somehow paying off. Don't know about the Aztecs, but since their religion is derived from the Maya, probably so. The Mayan had a child/dwarf diety, but can't remember the name right now. This diety introduced homoerotic relationships to the nobles in Mayan culture, as I recall. Not for the common people. Such unions were considered legally binding, marriage.  But then again, you could have multiple mates (if you were noble), of varying degrees. Interesting stuff. In my youth, got really into mythology, and expanded it to cultures other than Greco-Roman, which is where we stopped in school.

Comment by Daniel W on April 14, 2012 at 8:43pm

Tony, thanks for the information about not-necessarily-hetro deities.  I should make a list.  I bet there are some in the Aztec pantheon too.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 14, 2012 at 2:01pm

Well, some people like being pissed on.  (Present company excluded.  However, I've never been given the opportunity.) 

Comment by Tony Carroll on April 14, 2012 at 12:33pm

Hey SB. In the current, western religious belief system, i.e. christianity, there are indeed no LGBT dieties. Though homoertica is certainly suggested/hinted at. In the older religions, I'm reminded of Apollo, who had a male lover named Hyacinth. When Hyacinth died, Apollo took some of his blood and created the flower we know today. Also Astarte, who was quite often depicted as a hermaphrodite, had a class of all male gay priests. They were called Kelabim.  So many more examples, to many to list.

As to why the press act as they do, you got me. To find the real "stories behind the stories", you have to dig. Pain in the ass. The press seem to take as many passes as everybody else does, not putting in the work.

And please remember, we as a community care about you, and I do personally." It is better to be pissed off than to be pissed on ". Peace to you always. Be well.

Comment by Daniel W on April 14, 2012 at 9:31am

Richard, good question.  I don't have any answers to that.  I also want to know why there are no LGBT deities.  Unfair.


TFA, the press should also include pro-gay religious slant when they have anti-gay religious slant.  Their so-called balance is pandering to the bigots.  There are plenty of pro-LGBT religious people and groups, so there is no excuse for what seems to be presenting the "religious" or "chrisitian" view as always being anti-LGBT.  (Sorry, I'm feeling especially pissed off lately.  Reading too many blogs, and holy bullies).


Susan, smart policy.  I should be more judicious in what I watch.


OK, time to be more positive.  (Yes, I keep saying that).  To counter the evil lying harpy Kalley Yanta's "Marriage Minute" and the supposedly-married-non-ring-wearing-invisible-husband Vogon Troll Maggie Gallagher, and the magisterium propagandist has-been child star Kirk Cameron, here's the cute nerdy slightly scruffy Matt Baume with lots of marriage equality related news, much positive:



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