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Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Porn site puts North Carolina legislature to shame

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck on Monday. 2 Replies

Fascist Anti-Gay Backlash Can Escalate Fast

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 13. 4 Replies

L.A. Pride parade morphs into #ResistMarch

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew Jun 13. 2 Replies

Thanks "Equality State"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew May 8. 10 Replies

We're targeted by the justice system

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 19. 2 Replies

Research on Chest Binding

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Sep 28, 2016. 1 Reply

First nationwide survey of anti LGBT youth violence

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 27, 2016. 1 Reply

Supported Transgender Kids Do Fine

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 20, 2016. 2 Replies

Religious Colleges get federal pass on discrimination

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9, 2016. 3 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on July 2, 2017 at 12:33am

In Germany - Im surprised!  Merkel has long opposed marriage equality, and still does.  But most Germans are in favor. I guess there are still some legal hurdles but maybe it will go smoothly.  I hope so.  German persecution of LGBT people leaves a lot to forgive. Ning wanted to go there and visit my ancestral villages, but I have not expressed enthusiasm for that.  Largely because of German culture and attitudes.

Comment by Daniel W on June 30, 2017 at 8:41pm

Andrew I agree with you about distrusting the offer.  Anyway. emigrating us one thing.  Immigrating is another.  A country must accept you.  California is a state.  Can a state issue a green card?  I feel very bad for our kindred spiritds elsewhere.

This would be a truly good focus for activism.

Comment by Andrew on June 30, 2017 at 7:49pm
Sounds like new tyrannical institutions have replaced the old ones.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 30, 2017 at 12:30pm

Andrew, unfortunately I think the vast majority of the Russian population is quite intolerant toward LGBTQ's.  As a country, they haven't moved socially forward with this issue as other countries have.  When you have the influence of the ultra-conservative Russian Orthodox Church and a bigoted, tyrannical government working in tandem to shape the social views of the entire country, the general population doesn't know any better.  Media is strictly controlled and dissenting opinions are not tolerated.  Generation after generation is brainwashed to be homophobic. That's a difficult cycle to break.  It's so troubling to see this kind of systemic hatred.

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 30, 2017 at 12:08pm

I also wonder how large of a role the Russian Orthodox Church has had in shaping people's attitudes there.

Comment by Andrew on June 30, 2017 at 10:09am
I'd be really afraid that I'd wind up in jail, not on a flight. I wonder if Russians are really that intolerant, or if it's just the dictatorship they live under.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 30, 2017 at 9:50am

Russian TV offers gay people one-way tickets to leave

A Russian religious television channel is offering to pay for one-way plane tickets for gay people serious about emigrating from the country.

"Just recently, California - the most liberal state in the USA by the way - proposed to facilitate the granting of green cards to Russian perverts," said TV host Andrei Afanasyev.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-40456443

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 30, 2017 at 7:22am

World Alert: Germany legalizes gay marriage in parliamentary vote

Comment by Plinius on June 19, 2017 at 11:37pm

I think the rat race is getting much worse, and young people are more than ever unable to look outside their own bubble. 

Comment by Daniel W on June 19, 2017 at 10:47am

Joan, I'm sure you are right about aging activists.

What I'm feeling these days is that the young are more puritanical in their habits of judging, intolerance of diverse opinion, and knee-jerk opinions.  I am sure there was that 30 or 40 years ago, too, but it seems much more these days.  It is true that when I was young, my community was dealing with illness and death everywhere, there was discrimination everywhere, discovery by itself commonly led to loss of job and family, and we were openly demonized by the US President, by mainstream big-name ministers, and sometimes the only thing to do was leave and start life again somewhere else - a chance not everyone has.  In the late 80s, I went through the death of my partner and then my best friend, 3 months apart, I lived for a while out of my car, and worked 3 minimum wage jobs while going to school full time.  I know very well that others go through their own kind of hardships, and some don't have the opportunities that I had.  Although I wound up working too long and hard to fit volunteering into my later life, I did contribute financially to organizations that promote racial development and opportunity, and racial community building, because that is where I think some of the most difficult human uplifting is needed.

When the young vilify older people who don't fit their hierarchy of underprivilege, and don't toe the politically correct line that they trumpet, they are no better than the oppressors.  Often, they are blind to the fact that they do oppress others, such as via gentrification, and through ageism,and sometimes through racism.  What is needed is to open lines of communication, not have people shouting and judging each other, and manufacturing ever more intricate intersectional oppressionism.  They need to get out of their insular communities and learn the other point of view.  That goes for both sides of the liberal - conservative spectrum.  And everyone needs to know it's not a binary system, that once in a while their own side is wrong and the other side has some valid points.

I agree with you about gardening, enjoying companionship from our own species and other animals, having a sense of wonder, self nurturing by puttering and cooking.  That is where I need to concentrate my efforts these days!

On the other hand, Vancouver has a pride day in the central square, in July.  It's more low key than Portland Pride, more diverse age-wise, and I think we will go to that.

 

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