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Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 3:30pm

Amen, Spud!
(In the original sense, "Hear, hear! I believe it!" No spooks needed.)

A much better question than "What does God want? What makes God happy?" -- when the universe, and our planet, and human and other life look exactly as we'd expect with no gods -- is "What's best for us? What makes us happy?" Hopefully with a broad view of "us" that includes all of our fellow human beings.

Reposting a comment of Joan's:

Morals and ethics come from being born a social animal (picture: an International Space Station crew, over a background of the Earth seen from space)

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 25, 2016 at 3:02pm

GC, I was saddened that Josh still believed in the mormon god.  Hopefully, he will come to realize that god doesn't exist.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 25, 2016 at 2:57pm

Daniel, I had the same thought:  "Now can it give them their lives back?"

Josh's Afterlife Analogy was good until he said he still has faith that god will give him what makes him happy.  That's something that was never taught when I was mormon.  They say the only way to be happy is to have many wives pumping-out billions of children.

Of course, they may have changed their tune in the last 30 years. They tend to do that to keep the money rolling in.

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 2:50pm

Interesting how "virgins" is most often associated with women!

Maybe Josh will realize that such a god -- whose afterlife of "perfect happiness" would make him, and millions of other gay men and lesbians, miserable -- is simply not worth following and worshiping and obeying. (But an official Mormon website wouldn't cover that!)

Of course, if an all-powerful god were so opinionated about our attractions and sexualities, he could turn everyone straight in heaven. If all those premises were true, he could just as easily have turned everyone straight here in the actual world. Hasn't happened.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 25, 2016 at 2:21pm

Mormon and gay.  From the website of that name.

It's interesting to hear him say something to the effect of, "Ew, God promises that I will be with a woman in the next life.  Gross!". I wonder what gay Muslims think about getting 72 virgins in the next life.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 25, 2016 at 1:08pm

In the news, other things I never thought I'd see -

UK posthumously pardons thousands of gay men.

Which is wonderful.  Now can it give them their lives back?  Still, I should not be negative.  That's an amazing societal shift.

Germany to offer $33million in reparations to gays arrested during and AFTER the Nazi era.  " More than 140,000 men were convicted, and 50,000 of those faced charges after the end of WWII" and "The law ceased to be enforced in 1968, but was not removed from the books until 1994. And while the Nazi-era convictions of gay and bisexual men were finally removed in 2002, those convicted after the war are still awaiting a pardon."

That is despite the fact that Angela Merkel considers it important to have social progress for women but not gays.  Kind of like the openly atheist and "living in sin" former PM of Australia, Julia Gillard who said she couldn't support nontraditional relationships.  Still, I'm awed about the German movement toward reparations.

Again, you can't give those men their lives back, but reparations are a clear acknowledgement of the wrong that was done and could not just be blamed on "those' past Nazis.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 25, 2016 at 12:55pm

I don't know.  BB you are probably right as usual.

Somehow, I never thought I would say "There's a marijuana store between Home Depot and Safeway".  Boggles the mind.  Maybe that's just Portland.

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 11:35am

But what happens if you mix the gay pot and the hetero marijuana?

(In any case, make sure that people about to use it know what they're getting!)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 25, 2016 at 11:07am

Remember though, you not only need fag pot, but you have to mince it properly (Fortunately we're all good at mincing!) and mix it with just the right proportion of lsd in order for it to be efficacious.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 25, 2016 at 11:01am

BB thank you for the info.

Actually, their is a marijuana store in Portland, on Jantzen Beach.  It's between the side with Denny's and Home Depot, and the side with Safeway and Hooters.  My guess is they only have hetero marijuana, but what do I know?

 

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