LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: on Saturday

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 5, 2017 at 8:13pm

One of my all-time favorite novels, Earthly Powers by Anthony Burgess, opens in Malta with one of the best first sentences I've run across:

It was the afternoon of my eighty-first birthday, and I was in bed with my catamite when Ali announced that the archbishop had come to see me.

Comment by Daniel W on July 5, 2017 at 8:00pm

Conservative, Catholic,tiny Malta, to legalize gay marriage.   I always thought it would be cool to visit Malta, because it is so tiny and obscure, and in the middle of the Mediterranean

Comment by Daniel W on July 5, 2017 at 7:54pm

Interesting story in The Guardian about Mae West getting into trouble for her play about gay male sexuality in the 1920s.  "The Drag was inspired by her many gay friends. She knew their daily struggles to be open about their relationships, and to be accepted for who they were. When casting the play, she actively sought out gay actors."

Comment by Daniel W on July 2, 2017 at 12:33am

In Germany - Im surprised!  Merkel has long opposed marriage equality, and still does.  But most Germans are in favor. I guess there are still some legal hurdles but maybe it will go smoothly.  I hope so.  German persecution of LGBT people leaves a lot to forgive. Ning wanted to go there and visit my ancestral villages, but I have not expressed enthusiasm for that.  Largely because of German culture and attitudes.

Comment by Daniel W on June 30, 2017 at 8:41pm

Andrew I agree with you about distrusting the offer.  Anyway. emigrating us one thing.  Immigrating is another.  A country must accept you.  California is a state.  Can a state issue a green card?  I feel very bad for our kindred spiritds elsewhere.

This would be a truly good focus for activism.

Comment by Andrew on June 30, 2017 at 7:49pm
Sounds like new tyrannical institutions have replaced the old ones.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 30, 2017 at 12:30pm

Andrew, unfortunately I think the vast majority of the Russian population is quite intolerant toward LGBTQ's.  As a country, they haven't moved socially forward with this issue as other countries have.  When you have the influence of the ultra-conservative Russian Orthodox Church and a bigoted, tyrannical government working in tandem to shape the social views of the entire country, the general population doesn't know any better.  Media is strictly controlled and dissenting opinions are not tolerated.  Generation after generation is brainwashed to be homophobic. That's a difficult cycle to break.  It's so troubling to see this kind of systemic hatred.

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 30, 2017 at 12:08pm

I also wonder how large of a role the Russian Orthodox Church has had in shaping people's attitudes there.

Comment by Andrew on June 30, 2017 at 10:09am
I'd be really afraid that I'd wind up in jail, not on a flight. I wonder if Russians are really that intolerant, or if it's just the dictatorship they live under.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 30, 2017 at 9:50am

Russian TV offers gay people one-way tickets to leave

A Russian religious television channel is offering to pay for one-way plane tickets for gay people serious about emigrating from the country.

"Just recently, California - the most liberal state in the USA by the way - proposed to facilitate the granting of green cards to Russian perverts," said TV host Andrei Afanasyev.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-40456443

 

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