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Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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This was 2015. Marriage Equality had not happened yet.

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Thanks "Equality State"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew May 8. 10 Replies

We're targeted by the justice system

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 19. 2 Replies

Porn site puts North Carolina legislature to shame

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 29, 2016. 1 Reply

Research on Chest Binding

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Sep 28, 2016. 1 Reply

First nationwide survey of anti LGBT youth violence

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 27, 2016. 1 Reply

Supported Transgender Kids Do Fine

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 20, 2016. 2 Replies

Religious Colleges get federal pass on discrimination

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9, 2016. 3 Replies

Gay Suicide - Art Backfires

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30, 2016. 6 Replies

Caitlyn Jenner loves Ted Cruz

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Susan Stanko Mar 7, 2016. 15 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on November 1, 2016 at 11:02am

GC, thanks for the comments.  I wish people would just get over it, if they don't like gay marriage then they should not gay marry.  And leave the rest of us alone.

Meanwhile in the news, you may know thatin Utah there is a conservative man Evan McMIllan, running mainly against Trump, and he has a fair chance of winning the vote there.  So now a White Nationalist Trump supporter has bought robocalls claiming McMIllan's mother is Lesbian and he himself is at least a closet case.  Trump has distanced himself from Johnson for his white nationalist sensibilities.

It's just the standard, "They might be gay" or "They are gay" or "Their mother is gay" hate mongering.  Sometimes it works.  The problem for such practices these days is, to a significant degree, most people don't beleive anything that anyone is saying, unless they are people who we support.  Even then I think a lot of us don't beleive anything they are saying, but let them fight lies with other lies, or fight framing and posturing with more framing and posturing.

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 1, 2016 at 7:37am

If someone -- "patient zero" or not -- knowingly spread a horrible disease to other people, selfish recklessness is exactly the right term!

Bertold, very well said! Especially in view of one well-known world religion forbidding its authority figures from marrying or having sexual relationships -- it's ironic and backwards that supposedly celibate priests and bishops give advice and issue dicta on marriage! The analogy extends equally well to people who love cookies but hate donuts, and don't want to see anyone else eating them.

I was glad to see this graphic of mine (unfortunately still relevant post-Obergefell) show up in a few other places on the web:

Claiming that someone else's marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a doughnut because you're on a diet. [Background: pink frosted donut with colored sprinkles, a big bite taken from it, fading to grayish tones at the bottom]

Comment by Daniel W on October 31, 2016 at 5:29am

Kathy, Ive seen several articles about Degas.  I have a hard time thinking about someone who had clear symptoms of a horrible disease, knowingly spreading it to others.  He wasnt patient zero after all, but I dont like what looks like his denial and selfish recklessness.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 31, 2016 at 12:40am

Comment by k.h. ky on October 26, 2016 at 8:20pm
Did anyone else catch the article in the LA Times, today, about patient o being found not to be the original carrier of the HIV virus found in the US? Seems that it was all a misunderstanding. I can't recall the name of the movie but it made him out to be the really bad guy.
Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 3:30pm

Amen, Spud!
(In the original sense, "Hear, hear! I believe it!" No spooks needed.)

A much better question than "What does God want? What makes God happy?" -- when the universe, and our planet, and human and other life look exactly as we'd expect with no gods -- is "What's best for us? What makes us happy?" Hopefully with a broad view of "us" that includes all of our fellow human beings.

Reposting a comment of Joan's:

Morals and ethics come from being born a social animal (picture: an International Space Station crew, over a background of the Earth seen from space)

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 25, 2016 at 3:02pm

GC, I was saddened that Josh still believed in the mormon god.  Hopefully, he will come to realize that god doesn't exist.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 25, 2016 at 2:57pm

Daniel, I had the same thought:  "Now can it give them their lives back?"

Josh's Afterlife Analogy was good until he said he still has faith that god will give him what makes him happy.  That's something that was never taught when I was mormon.  They say the only way to be happy is to have many wives pumping-out billions of children.

Of course, they may have changed their tune in the last 30 years. They tend to do that to keep the money rolling in.

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 2:50pm

Interesting how "virgins" is most often associated with women!

Maybe Josh will realize that such a god -- whose afterlife of "perfect happiness" would make him, and millions of other gay men and lesbians, miserable -- is simply not worth following and worshiping and obeying. (But an official Mormon website wouldn't cover that!)

Of course, if an all-powerful god were so opinionated about our attractions and sexualities, he could turn everyone straight in heaven. If all those premises were true, he could just as easily have turned everyone straight here in the actual world. Hasn't happened.

Comment by Daniel W on October 25, 2016 at 2:21pm

Mormon and gay.  From the website of that name.

It's interesting to hear him say something to the effect of, "Ew, God promises that I will be with a woman in the next life.  Gross!". I wonder what gay Muslims think about getting 72 virgins in the next life.

 

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