LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Religious Colleges get federal pass on discrimination

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 3 Replies

Gay Suicide - Art Backfires

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30. 6 Replies

Supported Transgender Kids Do Fine

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 24. 0 Replies

Caitlyn Jenner loves Ted Cruz

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Susan Stanko Mar 7. 15 Replies

Mean Sally says, "Go kill yourself!"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 31. 9 Replies

Way of the Mister: Murder the Gays!!! (Brian Dalton)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 18, 2015. 16 Replies

Gender Identity and Sustainability

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26, 2015. 0 Replies

Epigenetics and sexual orientation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 8, 2015. 0 Replies

Gaydar doesn't exist and it's bad?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel W Sep 13, 2015. 2 Replies

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Comment by Grinning Cat on April 11, 2015 at 5:33am

Alex, the Socratic method Peter Boghossian advocates in "A Manual for Creating Atheists" might be useful -- asking questions to focus not on the irrationality of particular beliefs, but on "how we know what we know", or "why we're confident in our beliefs" and whether those reasons are justified. For example, to an absolutely 100% certain God-told-them-so Christian true believer: "Many Muslims believe just as passionately in the truth of their holy book. Do you think this makes them right?"

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on April 10, 2015 at 9:01am

  That makes me so very happy that I do not let my Insurance Co. pick anything for me. My Dr. is a Concierge doctor and I, not the Insurance Co pay her.  It is not as expensive as mot people would think and when you need to see her she can even come to your home or office.  

  She helped me in every step of my transition and she always calls ahead to clear the way and make sure that any specialist I see is LBGT friendly.  Then, if I wish she will accompany me on my appointment. Appointments with her always last at least 1 hour and when she sits and talks she asks the right questions to find those little things that you were accepting as just old age but in fact would turn into big things.  Added to all that she is an out and open Atheist.

  The only problem that came up all during my transition has been with Medicare where someone there decided they did not wish to change my gender marker even though Social Security had repeatedly told them to make the change.  Every time a change notice was sent it seemed to just disappear.  Finally a nice lady at SS decided enough and took it to the top and it got changed.

  By having such a Doctor I have been accused of being rich but in fact I live on Social Security and also a small income of about $100 a week.  My Doctor fee is $1500 a year and I have a Medicare Supplement.  I get a kick out of the people who say that they could not afford to pay that while they are snuffing out another cigarette.  For me it is about the best investment ever, especially as a person in their 80s. .

Comment by sk8eycat on April 9, 2015 at 10:31pm
E-mail from a friend:
It was two years ago to the day that I had an appointment with a new doctor for a routine physical. The doctor was randomly assigned by my insurance company in Southern California.
The routine physical was just that, routine. Typical questions were asked and notes were taken by the doctor. I left her office, proceeded to the lab for blood work, and was on my way.
Several days later I received a phone call from the doctor's office informing me that the doctor would like me to come in to review abnormal results from my physical. I was naturally concerned and immediately made an appointment for the next week.
When the doctor came into the room, she informed me that I was B-12 deficient and that she recommended monthly shots and daily supplements. Phew, I could handle that! But it was not until later, after being given a copy of the doctor's diagnoses, that I was shocked. My doctor had diagnosed my sexuality as a chronic condition, or disease. There it was. Right on my medical record. In the same section as Crohn's disease: “Homosexual Behavior Code 302.0.”
I couldn’t believe this was happening. In Southern California. In 2013.
As a gay man, I have no issue with my sexuality being referenced by my doctor in my social history. But seeing it listed on my medical record as a chronic condition or disease is wrong.
Some time passed as I attempted to wrap my head around this hurtful, harmful entry that stated my sexuality was a disease. I then made an appointment with the doctor for the sole purpose of discussing this “diagnosis.” She defended her actions, and even after my pleas to have my medical record corrected, the diagnosis remained there  — this time it was labeled a chronic problem. Because of this, I have sued the doctor and the medical center.
All of this is happening at a time of attempts to write discrimination against gay people into law in my home state of Indiana as well as Arkansas and several other states. Refusing to cater or provide flowers for a wedding is bad enough, but when it goes beyond that, it becomes downright dangerous. Can a doctor lean on a religious freedom law and refuse health care to a gay patient? Can a doctor impose her religious views on a patient and diagnose homosexuality as a disease? For as damaging as this was to me, I continue to think about what this means for a teenager who is only starting to come to terms with the idea he or she might be gay. Or worse, that it would out the youth to his or her parents.
Studies have shown that the suicide attempt rate is higher among LGBT teens than their straight peers. A doctor telling a gay patient of any age that his or her sexuality is a disease? The results could be tragic.
Comment by Daniel W on April 9, 2015 at 8:22pm

More almost-too-true-to-be-satire from from The Onion:  "Gay Conversion Therapists Claim Most Patients Fully Straight By The Time They Commit Suicide"

"We’ve found that a combination of group interventions, narrative therapy, and cognitive-behavioral approaches fully eliminates homosexual urges before the individual takes his or her own life,”

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 9, 2015 at 6:55pm

Queers to Catholics: With your history, YOU'RE calling US predators? Seriously??

Comment by Daniel W on April 9, 2015 at 2:53pm

GC, that is a wonderful counter to the fear-mongering catholic meme.  So true, so true.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 9, 2015 at 2:37pm

On second thought, we should probably believe the Catholics - they know a thing or two about predation.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 9, 2015 at 2:29pm

Nice one, GC!

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 9, 2015 at 2:06pm

David Badash at The New Civil Rights Movement comments on that lie-in-sheep's-clothing that paints LGBTQ people seeking equality as disguised predators. (That is their intended message!)

Daniel, you're right about Pope Francis, who recently showed his true colors by backing Slovakia's failed marriage ban referendum.

Comment by Daniel W on April 9, 2015 at 11:10am
Somehow that sheep doesnt send me the intended message. It looks like a wolf has dressed up as a gay friendly sheep but is still a wolf. Like, say, the current supposedly kinder gentler pontiff. He has pretended to be gay friendly but at heart the catholic empire must still prevail.

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