LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on August 19, 2016 at 12:37pm

Daniel & Grinning Cat, thanks for the listing of options. I think if I had such a partner, male or female, married or not, I would call him or her "Spice". You guys make my day. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 19, 2016 at 10:16am

Daniel: calling your partner "Who died and made you Emperor?" - heh!

I've encountered a few married female-male* couples that refer to each other as their partners. And I'm all for rejecting the narrow gender roles implied in the etymology of "husband" ("male head of a household, master of a house", whereas "wife" once meant simply "woman").**

(And I do know one male-female couple who'll sometimes semi-jokingly call each other "Spouse".***)

I also see "wife" and "husband" as entrenched, widely understood words for spouses, words that have shifted from their original connotations. My impression is that men talking about their husbands, and women talking about their wives, have helped many straight people see same-sex marriage for what it is: not some separate institution of "gay marriage" but a natural part of marriage.

But whatever particular partners call each other (politely, in public, and without trying to impose roles on the rest of us, like someone insisting they be addressed as "Lord and Master"), I'll follow their lead.


* Interesting how various expressions such as "male and female", "husband and wife", "he or she", invariably put the man first. When I'm paying attention I often consciously break that pattern. ("'Man' is a false generic, as in 'Man, being a mammal, breastfeeds his young.'")

** Other languages can be worse: I remember reading about Israeli feminists proposing a replacement for the Hebrew term for "husband", which is literally the same word as "master, lord, owner", whereas "wife" is the same word as "woman". They suggested that a man's spouse refer to him as "my man", parallel to how a woman's spouse refers to her as "my woman". No idea how well that caught on.

*** The plural of "spouse" might well be "spice", for some! :)

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 19, 2016 at 12:52am

I hate to admit my ignorance, but how do GLBTQ refer to their partners? 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 18, 2016 at 9:29pm

Funny - God must have been trying to flood the houses of evil people and got Tony's by mistake. Where's all that omniscience and omnipotence when they need it??? No doubt Pat Robertson will have a wet dream explaining this riddle wrapped in an enigma swaddled in bullshit.

Comment by Loren Miller on August 11, 2016 at 4:34pm

As it comes to enemas, I can think of a couple GOP candidates who could do with some alimentary cleaning out ... mostly 'cuz they're full of shit!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 11, 2016 at 4:24pm

@Daniel - yes, with friends like these, who needs enemas?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 25, 2016 at 4:14pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2016 at 7:45pm

Thank you, Daniel, for this very sweet and powerful film. As a heterosexual woman raised in a culture of rigid patriarchy, in some ways, it is easy to understand the challenges facing LGTB, and in other ways, I don't recognize the hurdles Gays encounter. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2016 at 3:28pm

I suppose I am not the only one who doesn't know the jargon  of the LGBTQ community, but what does m4m mean? 

OH! Even the dictionary knows the lingo. 

I can't say I am surprised, I can say that if the GOP perceives homosexuality a crime, then there are those who have a strong feeling of cognitive dissonance being in the Rep. party. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 22, 2016 at 11:17am

I'll take knowingly conniving for $500 Alex.


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