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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 9, 2016 at 10:41am

I didn't know that about Winco - makes me like them better.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 9, 2016 at 10:35am

I stopped supporting any church years ago, when I saw that they did more harm than good.  I found-out the "salvation" Army were anti-gay a couple of years ago, and that just added to my being against them.

One of the main reasons I shop at WinCo is they do not allow The "salvation" Army to harass us on WinCo property.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 9, 2016 at 8:35am

Salvation Army: Anti-Gay Christian Church Not Worthy of Support

Comment by Daniel W on December 3, 2016 at 9:58pm

Ruth, I remember thinking at the time, that's a whole crazy quilt of cognitive dissonance.  I wonder whatever happened to him.

BB, I think Im going to ignore apocalyptic commentaries that I agree with, for a while.  I guess it's time for me to be irrelevant and grateful that the GenX'ers and Millenials will be fucking up the world even worse than the boomers did.  So glad we didn't turn out to be the worst generation.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 2, 2016 at 10:46pm

Talk about cognitive dissonance -"a gay midwest blue-eyed blond convert to Islam"!

That Pierce quote seems apt, excepting that "destructive policies" is a couple of orders of magnitude of an understatement.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 2, 2016 at 3:53pm

The usually at least soemwhat ebullient Charles Pierce wrapped up one of today's blogs with this cheery thought:

The only true resistance to whatever comes next is sadly confined to a civic and political imagination that has grown stunted and crippled, and a commitment to truth and to political involvement that long ago surrendered to distraction, flash, and meaningless intellectual junk food. The democratic muscles needed for pushback have atrophied almost to the point of uselessness, and that's alright because the institutions through which those muscles could be used are shells of themselves. Get ready for four (or eight) years of empty spectacle in the service of destructive policies that the president-elect doesn't care enough to understand.

Comment by Loren Miller on December 2, 2016 at 2:12pm

If Bill Donohue wants to trade punches with Dan Barker and Annie Laurie, he's going to wish he hadn't.  I know them both, and they are lovely people, decent and polite ... and They Don't Back Down from ANYONE.

Comment by Daniel W on December 2, 2016 at 2:03pm

Im guessing this is real news.  There's a lot of fake stuff out there, so who knows?  Plus, the Spectator is conservative, so this might be as real as Fox news.

"How was a gay Islamist porn star able to penetrate Germany’s intelligence agency?

This story is also in the Washington Post - "Enter the unfolding case now of a porn actor-turned-Muslim-convert-turned-spy-turned-Islamist turncoat.

“It’s not only a rather bizarre, but also a quite scary, story that an agency, whose central role it is to engage in counterespionage, hired an Islamist who potentially had access to classified information, who might have even tried to spread Islamist propaganda and to recruit others to let themselves be hired by and possibly launch an attack

All very weird.   When I was a graduate student, I knew another student who was a gay midwest blue-eyed blond convert to Islam.  That struck me as strange then too.  As far as I knew, he wasn't also a porn start.

Comment by Daniel W on December 2, 2016 at 1:42pm

As always, I like to hear about what is happening, and how we can respond to it.  We have challenges, but we are not helpless.  There is a lot to worry about there and I can't deny that I feel it too. Historical precedents suggest that we are in an era of growing authoritarianism.  The media make money and grow influence by making things as scary as possible, too.  But I'm not going to tremble in a corner.  Neither should anyone else.

Im not going to suggest that "They are coming for us" but the history of that is meaningful and tells us what not to do, anyway.  As Martin Niemöller said, "

When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out."

In our day and age, we have mass social medial.  We have ways to speak out.  We have millions of allies.  We need to focus on what matters, and what to give up.  Maybe we  need to be strategic.  Wedding cakes, photo services, and flowers don't matter.  Employment, housing, finances, and other essential services, do matter.  Personal safety matters.  If there is legislation focused on specific groups, everyone should speak out against it. 

Remember - "They" also feel persecuted.  It's wrong, but that's what they feel.  Telling "them" they are evil monsters, will not change how they feel.  Demonstrating common humanity, "we are you" even if we look different, aiming for fairness, and the sense that a most people want to think of themselves as fair and not-evil.  We should also do some introspection to come up with how we have failed, what we can do better, where we should focus. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 2, 2016 at 12:46pm
 

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