LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: Nov 16

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Grinning Cat on November 1, 2016 at 7:37am

If someone -- "patient zero" or not -- knowingly spread a horrible disease to other people, selfish recklessness is exactly the right term!

Bertold, very well said! Especially in view of one well-known world religion forbidding its authority figures from marrying or having sexual relationships -- it's ironic and backwards that supposedly celibate priests and bishops give advice and issue dicta on marriage! The analogy extends equally well to people who love cookies but hate donuts, and don't want to see anyone else eating them.

I was glad to see this graphic of mine (unfortunately still relevant post-Obergefell) show up in a few other places on the web:

Claiming that someone else's marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a doughnut because you're on a diet. [Background: pink frosted donut with colored sprinkles, a big bite taken from it, fading to grayish tones at the bottom]

Comment by Daniel W on October 31, 2016 at 5:29am

Kathy, Ive seen several articles about Degas.  I have a hard time thinking about someone who had clear symptoms of a horrible disease, knowingly spreading it to others.  He wasnt patient zero after all, but I dont like what looks like his denial and selfish recklessness.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 31, 2016 at 12:40am

Comment by kathy: ky on October 26, 2016 at 8:20pm
Did anyone else catch the article in the LA Times, today, about patient o being found not to be the original carrier of the HIV virus found in the US? Seems that it was all a misunderstanding. I can't recall the name of the movie but it made him out to be the really bad guy.
Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 3:30pm

Amen, Spud!
(In the original sense, "Hear, hear! I believe it!" No spooks needed.)

A much better question than "What does God want? What makes God happy?" -- when the universe, and our planet, and human and other life look exactly as we'd expect with no gods -- is "What's best for us? What makes us happy?" Hopefully with a broad view of "us" that includes all of our fellow human beings.

Reposting a comment of Joan's:

Morals and ethics come from being born a social animal (picture: an International Space Station crew, over a background of the Earth seen from space)

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 25, 2016 at 3:02pm

GC, I was saddened that Josh still believed in the mormon god.  Hopefully, he will come to realize that god doesn't exist.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 25, 2016 at 2:57pm

Daniel, I had the same thought:  "Now can it give them their lives back?"

Josh's Afterlife Analogy was good until he said he still has faith that god will give him what makes him happy.  That's something that was never taught when I was mormon.  They say the only way to be happy is to have many wives pumping-out billions of children.

Of course, they may have changed their tune in the last 30 years. They tend to do that to keep the money rolling in.

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 2:50pm

Interesting how "virgins" is most often associated with women!

Maybe Josh will realize that such a god -- whose afterlife of "perfect happiness" would make him, and millions of other gay men and lesbians, miserable -- is simply not worth following and worshiping and obeying. (But an official Mormon website wouldn't cover that!)

Of course, if an all-powerful god were so opinionated about our attractions and sexualities, he could turn everyone straight in heaven. If all those premises were true, he could just as easily have turned everyone straight here in the actual world. Hasn't happened.

Comment by Daniel W on October 25, 2016 at 2:21pm

Mormon and gay.  From the website of that name.

It's interesting to hear him say something to the effect of, "Ew, God promises that I will be with a woman in the next life.  Gross!". I wonder what gay Muslims think about getting 72 virgins in the next life.

Comment by Daniel W on October 25, 2016 at 1:08pm

In the news, other things I never thought I'd see -

UK posthumously pardons thousands of gay men.

Which is wonderful.  Now can it give them their lives back?  Still, I should not be negative.  That's an amazing societal shift.

Germany to offer $33million in reparations to gays arrested during and AFTER the Nazi era.  " More than 140,000 men were convicted, and 50,000 of those faced charges after the end of WWII" and "The law ceased to be enforced in 1968, but was not removed from the books until 1994. And while the Nazi-era convictions of gay and bisexual men were finally removed in 2002, those convicted after the war are still awaiting a pardon."

That is despite the fact that Angela Merkel considers it important to have social progress for women but not gays.  Kind of like the openly atheist and "living in sin" former PM of Australia, Julia Gillard who said she couldn't support nontraditional relationships.  Still, I'm awed about the German movement toward reparations.

Again, you can't give those men their lives back, but reparations are a clear acknowledgement of the wrong that was done and could not just be blamed on "those' past Nazis.

 

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