LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: Nov 16

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Daniel W on September 7, 2017 at 11:57pm

People fear Christians, Atheists, Muslims... but  the article doesnt go into a lot of detail showing when those fears are well founded.  From the gay point of view, at least there arent a lot of atheists demonizing, persecuting, discriminating, even killing us.  I havent known enough muslims to say - but lets be real about their antigay attitudes.  With christians, Im on solid ground saying there is often good reason to distrust, if not fear, them. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 7, 2017 at 10:38pm

John, I saw that Guardian article earlier today and it made me think about the legitimacy of my own internal "gaydar."  It's really hard to pinpoint or put into words, but recognizing very subtle physical attributes can often be used to identify sexual orientation to a certain degree of accuracy more often than not.  At least that's my anecdotal experience.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 7, 2017 at 9:39pm

Andrew, you bring up a good point.  Mainstream religion is not innocuous.  As gay-friendly or socially progressive as these churches may be, they legitimize and normalize ridiculous and bad ideas and form a broad, strong foundation from whence fundamentalism springs.    

Comment by John Dumaker on September 7, 2017 at 7:43pm

Here is a concerning article about the use of AI to determine a persons sexuality as gay or straight. It does suggest the consensual scientific notion that sexuality is genetic, rather than a choice though.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2017 at 7:21pm

Daniel, I agree, "

Why can't the USA be more like Canada?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 7, 2017 at 6:53pm

To me it's particularly objectionable that they use the lie that it's a choice to justify their condemnation and bigotry. Even if it were a choice, so what??? It's no one's business how someone else likes to make love, and they should just stfu.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 7, 2017 at 6:27pm

Things were significantly veering toward normalcy until the recent extremist takeover. I think it will be a while before we see the WH bathed in the rainbow colors again. The root problem is a widespread failure (or refusal) of so many people to distinguish between fact and fantasy.

Comment by Daniel W on September 7, 2017 at 5:28pm

Andrew and Carl, you are both right.  It's been a long struggle.  Maybe it will never end...

Comment by Andrew on September 7, 2017 at 5:12pm
For me, of almost equal concern are the less hateful religious groups who don't necessarily attack particular segments of society, but still teach ideas that are regressive and divisive. For example, I've met very nice people who believe being gay is a choice and therefore a sin. Even though they don't overtly spread hate, they are still pushing ideas that contaminate our culture and breed discord. Further, they are teaching these unkind ideas to the next generation.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 7, 2017 at 1:03pm

With our current administration I feel like we're living in bizarro opposite-world, where everything that once was good in now bad, and everything that once was bad is now good.  

That's why we not only cannot be more like Canada but we cannot even act like an intelligent, empathetic, and rational country.   


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