LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Welcome to Gay / LGBTQI Atheists & friends!

I will be taking a reduced role at Atheist Nexus as of Oct 1, 2017. I will not be moderating this group after that time, and I will be re-zeroing most of my groups and comments.

That will leave this group without a moderator. Since this group was started by a member who hasn't visited Nexus for many years, it is not possible to select or designate a moderator. Instead, I will send notification to Br. Richard that the group will be without a moderator. It will then be up to him to decide how to proceed.

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Discussion Forum

Porn site puts North Carolina legislature to shame

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jul 17. 2 Replies

Fascist Anti-Gay Backlash Can Escalate Fast

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 13. 4 Replies

L.A. Pride parade morphs into #ResistMarch

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew Jun 13. 2 Replies

Thanks "Equality State"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Andrew May 8. 10 Replies

We're targeted by the justice system

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 19. 2 Replies

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 17, 2017 at 2:39am

Pride parades have morphed into an entirely different entity than how they started, for good or bad.  Parades now are sponsored by a slew of corporations such as wall street banks, airlines, grocery chains, beer and alcohol companies, etc.  It's nice to have the support, but are they embracing us only for the positive marketing and for making money from us?  Some people want to do away with the corporations.     

Inclusion of certain groups has always brought controversy.  I think back to all the years when NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) marched in Chicago's pride parades.  Fast forward to today, some people are protesting the inclusion of police departments, or even to have the police perform security detail for our parades.  LGBTQ people of color especially don't like the inclusion of law enforcement groups.  LGBTQ people of all colors and ethnicities should be against any type of police brutality.  The Chicago Police Department has LGBTQ officers in uniform marching in their own group in the parade.  Should they not be allowed?

The Charlotte/Trump situation is quite unique.  Trump says he supports us, but he hasn't done anything to prove it.  Additionally, he has surrounded himself with countless people who each have their individual histories of actively fighting against our rights, and even our mere existence.  Trump is not standing in their way.

Some people question whether Trump is even a "true" Republican.  Whatever direction he politically leans, for this moment in time he is the leader and megaphone for the Republican party, and they certainly are no friend to the LGBTQ community. 

I think I would have been inclined to include the Trump supporters in the Charlotte parade because I support free speech and because those folks are, indeed, part of the LGBTQ community.

Chicago's parade has been VERY political for quite some time, with politicians falling over themselves to participate, from governors, state and federal senators, congresspeople and representatives, mayors, aldermen, and everyone in between.  Overall, their participation is well received.  Of course, our vocal support for them is contingent upon their voting record.  Frankly, each politician honestly knows beforehand whether their decision should be "yes or no" to participate.  

The parade is also full of LGBTQ-friendly churches.  Although I'm an atheist, I support their right to be there, even though most, if not all, of our opposition stems from religious beliefs.  Sidenote:  a longtime gay friend of mine is an ordained minister and for years headed LGBTQ congregations.

It's all intricately complicated.  Overall, if the support is there, I'm for inclusion.  

Comment by Daniel W on June 15, 2017 at 9:15pm

Andrew, Trump has not spoken out against the LGBT community.  In fact, he has less antigay activity than much of the Republican party.  However, many of his appointees are very antigay including Pence

As far Charlotte pride excluding a Trump group, one really cant claim to be a coalition or movement that embraces diversity and inclusion, then exclude a group for not falling in line with the polutically correct agenda.  Of the hundreds of Pride parades and celebrations, Im guessing that most will not exclude Tump factions, even if that makes for a raucous situation.  LGBT political events have historically had a lot of disagreements. 

I am generally very liberal, but I hate the mind-control aspects of modern political correctness, and purist anti-free speech.

Comment by Andrew on June 15, 2017 at 8:36pm
Has trumpet really spoken out against the gay community? Someone please educate me. As far as gay supporters of the a-hole are concerned, it seems a shame to me for them to be shut out. It does seem to be one big area where LGBTQI folks of both political sides have a lot in common, and isn't that a way to begin meaningful dialog?
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 15, 2017 at 6:25pm

Commerce Dept. Removes Gender, Sexual Orientation From Equal Employment Statement

Daily Beast

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 15, 2017 at 5:53pm

Thanks for the news about a gay Irish Prime Minister, Daniel.

I have mixed feelings about Gay Trump supporters being cast out of the Charlotte Pride Parade.

Comment by Daniel W on June 15, 2017 at 2:46pm

Serbia gets its first Lesbian prime minister.   From The Guardian:

"The Serbian president, Aleksandar Vučić, announced on Thursday evening that he was giving Brnabić, a non-party technocrat, the mandate to form a new government, describing her as “hard-working, [with] professional and personal qualities”, the Serbian news agency B92 reported"

Ireland gets its first gay Prime Minister (Taoiseash) - NPR - "The government that I lead will not be one of left or right, because those old divisions don't comprehend the political challenges of today"  He's considered rather conservative.

Not much comes out these days, about about the persecution of gay people in Chechnya.  Must not be all that interesting, compared to US reality-show politics.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 8, 2017 at 10:38pm

Presented without comment....

Gay Trump supporters denied entry into Charlotte Pride Parade

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/259656209-story

Comment by Daniel W on June 8, 2017 at 7:49pm

Sorry, the link below didn't work.  Here is another try.  Not safe for work, see info below.

Comment by Daniel W on June 8, 2017 at 7:48pm

Please pardon me if everyone already knows all of this.  I have had a bit of a Rumpelstiltskin life, and didn't even see most of CSI until the series ended after 15 years.

I have been enjoying the book "American Gods" - an interesting book for an atheist to read.  I understand this book has been made into a series on the Starz network, which I don't have access to.  The central concept revolves around gods or godlike entities that emigrated to America along with others from their cultures, and are fading away, to be replaced by modern gods of technology and commerce.

Even though the book is a far stretch from being gay themed, and the author is straight, and the actors are straight, the television series included a gay love and sex scene that was notable for its honesty, explicitness, and for being a scene between a Muslim Arab man and an old Arabic god or Jinn.  I'm not embedding the link because some people might be offended, but it is highly edited, and does not include some visuals that have been described on news sites.  Here is a vignette of that scene.  I thought it was very moving.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 6, 2017 at 5:02pm

Funny, Loren, that's exactly what McEnroe thought.

 

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