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Comment by Loren Miller on May 25, 2015 at 2:24pm

Responding to the Vatican's pouting:

So ... the church is upset because gay and Lesbian couples may avail themselves of 21st century technology and medical services in pursuit of their own families.  Meanwhile, the RCC wants to continue living in the 15th century and appears to be confused and distraught at so many not wanting to join them.

More and more, the catholic church seems to be working harder to make themselves totally irrelevant to the people they think they're serving.  They may just get their wish.

Comment by Pat on May 25, 2015 at 2:10pm

Bertold, on Saturday, I was following the Irish vote on the Irish Independent newspaper's website. What was fascinating was to follow the comments section on the live coverage of the election results. These are the same 'boogeyman' arguments the clergy was posting in response to the landslide against the RCC.

The clergy, and those supporting the RCC, were told in no uncertain terms that the scaremongering that was the hallmark of the "No Vote" campaign didn't work, and wouldn't work. Members of the Dáil Éireann (Ireland's legislature), have made it clear that no church will be forced to perform same sex marriage. Another strawman argument destroyed.

Although, I think my favorite comment (among many) was the quote attributed to an elderly man who was coming out of a voting booth in the rural part of the country. When asked how he voted on the referendum, his response was, "I voted for the gays. Sure, and aren't they better than that other lot."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 25, 2015 at 1:29pm

The Vatican responds

(Vatican Radio) Ireland has become the first country in the world to vote to create a constitutional right to so-called same-sex “marriage.”

. . . Concerns have been expressed that the measure may affect religious freedom: the prime minister, Enda Kenny, has already said that Catholic schools will be required to teach same-sex marriage as part of the curriculum.

Campaigners also worry about the effects the 'yes' vote will have on children since it now confers an automatic right to procreate on same-sex couples leading to fears of an upsurge in demand for fertility treatment and surrogacy.

[Really? More fertility treatment and surrogacy?? This is the dire threat posed by gay marriage?? Yikes!!!]

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 24, 2015 at 11:04am

@ Daniel - yes, I wonder how forgiving Huckabee would have been if one of Obama's daughters had touched someone inappropriately.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 24, 2015 at 10:59am

I just remembered that old song--

When Irish eyes are smiling

All the world is bright and gay

As a side benefit, it's a perfect jumbo-sized suppository for the RCC!

Comment by sk8eycat on May 23, 2015 at 2:09pm

You'll notice that Judy Garland is the only female in this scene....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=63&v=qrt_PA5PflM

Comment by Daniel W on May 23, 2015 at 12:40pm
Meanwhile back in Arkansas, I wonder how Michelle Duggar, the antigay activist and self rightous TV christian superstar fecundity champion mom will fare, after having been star of a robocall campaign to demonize gay and transgender people as potential child molesters, since it came out that she sheltered her serial child molesting teenage son from prosecution. And with said serial child molesting teenager having grown up to be a high level christian antigay spokesman - with apparently no qualifications other than being a member of the Duggar ethnic group - for the antigay activist family research council, having hobnobbed for photo ops with christian repub Huckabee - who of course is preaching forgiveness for past molestations - and photops with Rand Paul, Perry, and multiple others... I cant write a sentence that long.

Well the young Duggarite scion was never convicted, so does not have to register as a sex offender. The record has been destroyed to protect his victims - uh huh - and everyone prayed and forgave, and he mea culpa'ed all over the place. So now he's not sleazy and a serial child molester, just a victim of gay activists, as is his mom who, after all, just wanted her son to be protected from unwanted attentions, and should be protected from the shit storm.
Comment by Loren Miller on May 23, 2015 at 12:39pm
I heard the news about Ireland earlier on today, and I couldn't be more thrilled. Hats off to the Emerald Isle!
Comment by Daniel W on May 23, 2015 at 12:27pm
I am more cynical. i think conservatives most core value is the need to demonize. As long as they can be self rightious bigots, they have a reason to live.

Im amazed and proud of Ireland. Not that Im Irish, but Im still amazed and proud.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 23, 2015 at 12:16pm

Indeed, Cat - fabulous news! (Especially for one of the [formerly] greatest strongholds of Catholicity!)

I'm thinking that the desperation of the fundamentalists over this is based on a worry that when it happens here and the sky doesn't fall, their bullshit is going to be exposed to all as pure unadulterated bullshit.

 

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