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Comment by Loren Miller on July 20, 2017 at 8:04pm

Don't watch Megyn Kelly, have never watched Megyn Kelly, and seriously doubt I will ever have any interest in watching Megyn Kelly in the future.  As it comes to women reporters I respect, Lesley Stahl, Elizabeth Palmer, Christiane Amanpour, and Holly Williams go to the head of the class, as well as several others whose work I've seen on CBS.

These women deliver SUBSTANCE, and as it comes to news reporting, that is my primary interest.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 20, 2017 at 7:51pm

What scares me is the number of people who believe this kind of shit. (Obama's still after your guns, you know.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2017 at 7:31pm

Who is this Root character? I have not heard his name before, as far as I know. A little search and this is what I found:

"Gay, By Kyle Mantyla | July 18, 2017 2:37 pm

"On his radio program yesterday, right-wing commentatorconspiracy theorist and DonaldTrumpobsessed sycophant Wayne Allyn Root rejoiced over the poor ratings that Megyn Kelly has received since leaving Fox News for NBC, attributing the results to the fact that liberal men won’t watch her show because they are all gay.

“She’s got great legs,” he said. “She’s a hot babe and no one gives a crap about her. You know why? Because a hot babe on Fox News, Republican men loved her; take her off Fox News, now the whole world knows what she is. Republican men like me, I wouldn’t tune in. Screw Megyn Kelly.”

“I hope she dies,” Root said, before quickly adding that he meant that he hopes “her ratings plummet and her career dies” because “she tried to screw over our man, Donald Trump.”

“Outside of Fox News, you have no support,” he continued. “You had the hottest show in the country, my friend, and what did you do? You spit in our face. Now you’re done. All those Republican men who appreciate beautiful women, we don’t like you anymore, we’re never going to give you the time of day, Megyn Kelly. Who’s left? Liberal women won’t like you because you’re coming from Fox News and liberal men, well, they’re all gay or they don’t appreciate pretty women.”

Scum keeps slithering out of the rocks where they hid like venomous snakes waiting for opportunity to strike. 

Comment by Daniel W on July 20, 2017 at 7:19pm

BB,  that's a weird guy.

On top of the obvious reasons to fit him to a straight jacket, I always wonder why blonde hair  is the default  for sexy or beautiful.  I mean, a person can be blonde and be alluring and gorgeous,  but the same is true for raven black, or brown, or red.  Then again, I know Im abnormal.  I think the same way about skin color, or eyes, and always did have a taste for what others consider exotic.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 20, 2017 at 6:31pm

Right-Winger: Megyn Kelly’s Ratings Stink Because Liberal Men Are “All Gay”

Patheos

“Real men like beautiful women,” Root said. “Liberal men? You could walk into a room and they wouldn’t even notice. They’re too busy worrying about the poor. They don’t care about beautiful legs, they don’t care about your beautiful face and your blonde hair and your tight skirt. They don’t care!”

. . . He also compared criticism of Trump to the crucifixion of Jesus… which I think says more about his religion than liberals.

Comment by Daniel W on July 17, 2017 at 10:56pm

Tom, as far as gratitude, it's not the same as servitude.  I am eternally grateful for my parents' love and nurturing, their example of hard work and dedication, and both of their good, sweet nature, even though I took a path that they could not comprehend, let alone approve of.  They gave me the resources and resilience to make my own life, even though I had to do the rest entirely on my own.  I did my best to repay them, as I could and as they allowed, with care and resources at the end of their lives.  There are many other things that people have done that I am grateful for.  That doesn't mean I genuflect to those people.  Only that I know that to the extent that we see the clouds, we have the shoulders of giants, or many short people standing on each others shoulders, to thank for our vision.  Our responsibility is to pay it forward, and certainly not to scorn, disapprove, ridicule, put off, or exclude, our elders.

Comment by Daniel W on July 17, 2017 at 10:48pm

When I was a grad student at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, in the early 1980s, I was a member and volunteer for a social services organization for LGBTI people the met in a church basement across the street from the campus.  (Note, at the time, the "queer" designation was considered a vile insult, and people were not taking that on as a trendy appellation to indicate they liked various gender affectations.  Intersex people were, and continue to be, persecuted and forgotten by most LGBTQ activists). 

We were there to support, educate, and empower LGBTI people, and make them feel less alone, afraid, sick, perverse, and isolated.  Occasionally, local ministers and other people would crash the meetings and programs, to spew their hatred.  There were often hate mail letters to the PO Box, and some members became known, and received telephone threats.  Most members were so underground, that their families and friends did not know.  The only places that they had to make contact with others, was in dangerous public parks and similar areas.  Because of that, the police conducted raids and entrapment schemes, then arrested the men affected, and published their names in the local newspaper.  Those people were fired from their jobs and ostracized by their families. 

This was during the time when the AIDS epidemic was spreading like wildfire.  We had members with AIDS, and the group gave them what help they could.  There was no treatment, and they died fairly quickly and very horribly, often rejected by family and friends. 

Some members would drive to Indianapolis or Chicago to find others like them, connect, and have sexual encounters.  That was also dangerous, because of the long drive. In the early 90s, there was also a serial killer in Indianapolis who murdered gay men, Herb Baumeister.  There were 11 bodies found, and at least 9 others suspected to be his victims.   

In a speech, the university president, Steven Beering, reassured families of Purdue students, that there were no gay students at Purdue. 

Ironically, I learned about the group because the man who I was dating was the minister for that Methodist church, although I broke it off when him when he told me he was married.  Still, I needed money to live on, so I worked there as custodian and landscaper through most of my graduate school life. 

The group was also part of the organizing of the first ever gay pride event in Indiana.  We were on TV, which made me nervous but I was there anyway.

As much as possible, many members got out of Indiana as soon as possible, most leaving for the West Coast, as I did even though I had never set foot in Oregon and never heard of Corvallis before I took the post doc there. 

I had put on programs about LGBTI people, especially pioneers in various fields, such as Steven Turing and a number of others, and I did outreach to local ministers to expose them to real life gay people, offer the group as support for local members, and find other resources, such as psychologists and doctors, as far as which ones were not prejudiced.  

Recently, I have again befriended a member of the group from that time, and she commented that at her first visit, I had introduced myself by my full name, and she was a bit stunned by that openness.  I don't even remember doing that, but is in character. 

After I moved to Corvallis, I again attempted to take part in a support group, but it was just a social group.   I moved to Portland, and most of the gay men who I met had AIDS, and died within a couple of years, at which time I basically became a hermit for several years.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 17, 2017 at 8:44pm

Kathy, I wonder if they know the stories of those who have been harassed, tortured and murdered in the U.S. because the victim was gay?

I wonder if your grandson and his husband know the struggles to get such crimes listed as "Hate" crimes? 

The Southern Povery Law Center was an important part of our team in Spokane when charges were ready to be filed and argued in court.

I read their newsletters and here is one that your and your grandson and his partner need to know and understand. 

ALLIANCE DEFENDING FREEDOM 

"Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that specializes in supporting the recriminalization of homosexuality abroad, ending same-sex marriage, and generally making life as difficult as possible for LGBT communities in the U.S. and internationally. "

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 17, 2017 at 7:41pm

Andrew, I LOVE  your  bumperstickers!

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 17, 2017 at 7:30pm

Daniel, Sadly, I can't understand the audio in "muslim gay marriage in UK". 

It is extremely difficult for so many of us to break away from toxic families, religions, attitudes, traditions, and values. We fail to see that we are part of a magnificent universe and we receive so many very valuable senses as part of our makeup. Each element of our being contains the energy to open up into a fully functioning human being, just as a rose opens up to be a fully functioning flower. Families and religions too often get in the way of human development. They try to mold others to be something different. 

I hereby declare by the authority vested in me by the universe, this is 

Bastille Day

I declare this day, __________, as a turning point in my life and a celebration of discovering who I am, what I feel, what I want, and what I need to make me productive, healthy and happy. I feel like a parade and party marking this day as the first day of the rest of MY life!

 

 

 

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