LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: Nov 16

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Daniel W on March 15, 2014 at 9:16pm

GC, nice infografic!

On a different note, here is another hoax victim of antigay persecution / gaybashing.  This was a young British man who posted his supposed "gay bashed" photo, when what he really did was get drunk and fall on the sidewalk. 

This behavior really angers me.  There have been many hoax gay-bashings.  Those hoaxes take away credibility and give ammunition to homophobes, and cause compassion fatigue / mistrust.  I hate that. 

Comment by Gary F. Lord on March 14, 2014 at 1:55pm

its getting better for us...here in new England its all kewl for gay marriage....just cant find a husband....hehehehe

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 13, 2014 at 11:52pm

July 1, 1974, when I bought my home, I couldn't sign ... my Dad signed for me. 

Oct. 08, 1979, The first conviction; "According to the old common-law rule, a man who forces his wife to have sexual intercourse with him cannot be convicted of rape.The celebrated Rideout case in Salem, Ore., late last year resulted in the acquittal of Husband John accused of rape by his wife Greta. Attitudes are changing, however. Last week, in another Salem, in Massachusetts, James K. Chretien was convicted of raping his estranged wife Carmelina. He is believed to be the first American ever convicted of wife rape.

Law: Wife Rape

We have made great progress in the past 40 years; however, there are many social problems that need to be corrected. Expecting time to heal all ills is a waste. Face the issues head on, prepare for the criticism, blaming and threats. Those who want justice must forego peace to get justice. Hopefully, our great aspirations will be matched with our laws and customs.

Same sex marriage is right on top of the list, along with woman's right to control her own body without interference from religious or politicians making medical decisions without the consult of woman, her doctor and her spiritual counselor.   

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 13, 2014 at 10:54pm

That's a great marriage poster, G Cat.  Thanks for sharing. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 13, 2014 at 10:10pm

The evolution of "traditional marriage" in the eyes of the law, in an infographic by Ariah Fine:

Comment by Loren Miller on March 6, 2014 at 2:20pm

SB, I've said it many times: they want the right to be bigoted, the right to discriminate, and to use their holy book as justification.  This is what happens when E pluribus unum is replaced with "In God We Trust."  They don't care the "pluribus;"  they just care about the "unum."

Comment by Daniel W on March 6, 2014 at 2:15pm

GC, I think it's clear to everyone, those laws are just another way to protect prejudice and enshrine discrimination into law. Arguments to the contrary are disingenuous. Using the language they describe, a doctor with "sincerely held" anti-muslim belief could refuse care to a muslim, a catholic nurse could refuse care to baptists, and people could just as well refuse any service - hotel, restaurant, medical, making a sandwich to interracial couples.

So what are the laws about? Republicans using jingoism and scapegoating to further us/them dichotomies and garner political gain.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 6, 2014 at 1:56pm

And if the teabaggers ever get complete control, the sign will also read, "NO (approved) God, No Service," too.

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 6, 2014 at 12:54pm

Jen Sorensen's comic on so-called "Religious Freedom" bills (as discussed in "Theism, Deism...")

"Funny how the concept of 'freedom' applies to business owners but not customers..."

FREE TO CHEW: Some conservatives would allow businesses to refuse service on grounds of 'religious freedom.' (Door sign: 'No shoes, no shirt, no heterosexuality, no service') Funny how the concept of 'freedom' applies to business owners but not customers... [short-haired, flannel-shirt-wearing butch woman holding hands with her partner] 'I just want the freedom to get a @#!* sandwich.' ... or birth-control-needing employees. [woman at computer in office] 'It is my sincerely-held belief that my ovulation cycle should be free from my boss's pre-enlightenment worldview.' Maybe these laws should be the other way around. [Not-Gay Donuts shop with boarded window: 'CLOSED for violations of human dignity', man pointing] 'No respect, no tolerance, no business!'

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 4, 2014 at 2:09pm

Chrissie, thanks for your reply.  You certainly have lived an interesting life, in many ways.  I can't imagine the mental anguish of having a physical body that doesn't correspond to what your mind is telling you.  I'm glad you're finally in a situation these days where you can feel comfortable. 

You sound like an extremely strong-willed person, and I admire you for what you have overcome and accomplished.  As you mentioned in your post below, many people in your situation choose to prematurely end their lives.  It breaks my heart that society can drive us to such extremes. 

Thanks again for participating in the discussions here.  I have to admit, it would be an honor to sit down and chat with you.  --Carl

 

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