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Religious Colleges get federal pass on discrimination

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 3 Replies

Gay Suicide - Art Backfires

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30. 6 Replies

Supported Transgender Kids Do Fine

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 24. 0 Replies

Caitlyn Jenner loves Ted Cruz

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Susan Stanko Mar 7. 15 Replies

Mean Sally says, "Go kill yourself!"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 31. 9 Replies

Way of the Mister: Murder the Gays!!! (Brian Dalton)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 18, 2015. 16 Replies

Gender Identity and Sustainability

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26, 2015. 0 Replies

Epigenetics and sexual orientation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 8, 2015. 0 Replies

Gaydar doesn't exist and it's bad?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel W Sep 13, 2015. 2 Replies

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Comment by Grinning Cat on August 22, 2012 at 6:40pm

A quote that should be spread far and wide:

"Because you believe something is wrong doesn't mean you make it illegal."

--Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage, at 0:47:52 during his dinner-table debate at Dan Savage's home last week.

(Brown was talking about civil divorce, though, and immediately refused to apply the same principle to equal marriage:

Savage: "Then why not the same policy towards civil gay marriage?"

Brown: "Again, there's a misunderstanding here. That gay marriage can not exist....")

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on August 15, 2012 at 10:06am

Good, respectful penetrating interview:

ON You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WDURT-b_8s&feature=em-uploademail

Nate Phelps is the son of Fred Phelps, infamous pastor of Kansas' Westboro Baptist Church, an entity which asserts that "God Hates Fags," that President Obama is the AntiChrist, and that the terrorist attacks of 9/11 were God's punishment upon the United States.

Comment by Daniel W on August 14, 2012 at 10:56am

Nice summary of recent events in Marriage equality, via joe.my.god

 
I'm having "politics fatigue" after the stupid chicken sandwich chain events. Too bad, given we are headed into the political season of lies, fake drama, posturing, and general stupidity.

Comment by sk8eycat on August 13, 2012 at 12:30pm

Gosh, and i always thought our rights came from "We the People..."

Where do these tiny-minded millionaires come from?

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on August 13, 2012 at 8:22am

quote: "Our rights come from nature and God, not government."

           - Paul Ryan

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 11, 2012 at 10:56pm

A flowchart that's been reposted in many places around the web; it rebuts Christian objections to equal marriage:

"So you still think homosexuality is sinful?
And therefore gays shouldn't be allowed to marry?
"

(Click through to the Facebook page for a few specific mouse-over credits, as well as comments there. I saw this on Joe. My. God., but this Facebook photo by "The God Article" looks like it could be the original source.)

Comment by Tammy S on August 9, 2012 at 2:28pm

http://imgur.com/a/QITJq#wBE8Y

Saw this over on Diaspora today, had to share.

Comment by Daniel W on August 9, 2012 at 10:14am

Joan, thank you!


The questions about evolution of sexual orientation and race are unanswered but compelling. 

Homo sapiens is the most "successful" species in known history of planet earth, as far as covering the globe, rapid increase in numbers,  and dominating the planet's ecology.  And we did it in a geologically short time - a blink of an eye.  Our physiology, anatomy, intelligence, luck, ability to adapt and diversify, are all factors.  Our sexuality, which is fluid, and strong sex drive, clearly are factors - it's a major part of how we bond, create families, create societies, mix, interact, and diversify.  In other species, "hybrid vigor" creates new, more adaptable, more diversified, more successful plants and animals.  The same must be true for humans.  The societies that prospered and adapted were the ones at crossroads, where people of various origins and types, talents, ways of thinking and ways of being, mixed, and had the ability to diversify.  The USA is one of the most recent, but one of many - merchant societies like Greece, Rome, Egypt, the Aztecs, the Incas, the Mongols, Ottomans, England, Portugal, and Spain in their eras.  A closed society gives us N. Korea and Iran.  In an open and diverse society, the sky's the limit.  That's my amateur historian point of view.  Someone can prove me wrong.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 8, 2012 at 3:52pm

Well, well, well ... we have the old conflict staring us in the face.

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And But for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix." 

  - Loving v. Virginia, 1967

Or did all homo sapiens evolve in Africa from earlier primates and over eons of time, migrated to the entire Earth, changing according to their environments into different shades of skin, different body builds, different food sources, different beliefs, and different value systems? Do LGBT's exist on each continent? Are there some cultures who value LGBT's? Are there some societies that elevate them to a high plane than heterosexuals. Does being different in these aspects mean differences matter? 
Where is the moral code, the ethical justification for defining people from one color, or sex, or sexual orientation or body style, or food preference, or beliefs, or values as better that those who differ? 

Is there any difference that matters between white, anglo-saxon, and protestant male individuals and individuals who are black, yellow, malay and red or female or LGBT? 

If there is a difference that matters, show me the evidence. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 8, 2012 at 3:27pm

Sentient Biped, as usual you get to the heart of the issue and I repost here:

"I have to keep reminding myself it is not about the personal beliefs of the founder. It's about the fact that some (a lot) of dollars, that go into the cash registers at the chain's stores, go to spread hate and discrimination against human beings who happen to be LGBT. There are few clearer cases of "voting with dollars" to dehumanize people.  Those dollars actually hurt people, when they go to the hate groups.

Sentient Biped

 

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