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Dallas, I wonder if that pic of the special ed teacher was somehow photoshopped? There's something not-right about her disconjugate gaze. Kind of creepy, really.
Congratulations, Chrissie, on fully affirming your true self!
You're right, religion seems to be behind a great deal of the insistence on following the "One True Way" to be a real man, or a real woman, or a real small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. (I do miss Douglas Adams.)
It has been my experience that most people who have a place in the LGBT spectrum have and still are covering their true self because of the pressure from theology and it's influence on society. For one to identify as a thinking individual who does not fit their ideal of what we all should be is asking for trouble and hatred sometimes resulting in death or injury. As a result of that I and many others hid our true selves and never admitted our true self often not even to ourself.
I spent 74 years in that limbo and then then rather than ending it all I decided to let the world know my true self. I admitted to the world as well as myself that I had gender disphoria and that I was going to put it right. I completed my transition at 76 and life now is more than I ever thought possible. Those people who you loose because you show who you really are, you know the ones whon believe in some form of invisable sky god, are not worthtrying to keep even if they are family. The really hard part is finding the will to come out and be who you really are. I am sure a lot of those grey areas would deminish if we were honest.
I am now a Trans. Atheist Lesbian and at nearly 80 life could not be better so we all need to come out and joinn the fun.
This brings us back to the discussion of whether people who say they are bi, are actually gay. I certainly can't say and I would have to take people at their word, but does it hurt us or help us?
I had a male visitor the other night who identifies as "straight" and he only does certain things. What people do not realize is that you can be a virgin and still be gay. Your nature is your nature.
I have alwys found that women were more flexible or willing to state that they were bi, and without a study, I have seen many move back and forth between men and women, often when a relationship goes badly with one, they move to the opposite. Not being a woman, I gave up a long time ago trying to explain female sexuality. You don't find truly heterosexual boys kissing each other at pajama parties or experimenting in college.
While many heterosexuals have had gay experiences, that is different from "experimenting" for a length of time. Typically, few heterosexual males take up with men, when they have a failed heterosexual relationship.
I still find most OUT males identifying as gay, but many who are on the DL, will claim to be bi or even straight like my recent visitor. But, I am in no way negating the claims of either bisexuality or being somewhere on the spectrum, since, how could I know anyway?
While it is obviously a silly ploy by some to claim bi or straight status to gain some sort of "normality", I wonder if in today's world, if people are becoming more relaxed about their sexuality and recognizing even a slight variation on the sexuality scale?
This could actuality help us, because in the past, if I heard someone say that everybody is a little bi or everyone has experimented, they were usually making the case against gay people, promoting movement to the "norm" of heterosexuality, while dismissing a gay identity.
But, if more people are identifying with being somewhere on the spectrum, it may be that it is becoming a "so what" or "who cares" situation. Studies have shown that a growing number of people are acepting marriage equality.
Maybe our movement has helped a growing number of people to openly recognize that they may not be 100 % of anything, but still might have strong preferences.
I'm 53 and as a teenager, all those many years ago, when I began to recognize and admitt my sexual feelings, I first identified as bi, for a short time. I thought it was safer and since I didn't hate women, so it must be the case. But the gay movement taught me to love myself and accept myself for whoever I am. For me, that turned out to be 100 % gay.
In today's world, these young wipper snappers have more choices, role models, and a small but growing approval by society, to be who you are. Obviously, we are not there yet, but we are moving towards the goals for which we have fought.
So funny! So true!
Gary - I'm also 100% gay. As for drawing the line on discrimination, no one had any problem where to draw the line for me.
Carl - thanks for posting. i haven't watched yet but intend to.
I am 100% gay so I don't know where to draw the line.
Here's a great TED talk that was just released:
iO Tillett Wright: Fifty shades of gay
Artist iO Tillett Wright has photographed 2,000 people who consider themselves somewhere on the LBGTQ spectrum and asked many of them: Can you assign a percentage to how gay or straight you are? Most people, it turns out, consider themselves to exist in the gray areas of sexuality, not 100% gay or straight. Which presents a real problem when it comes to discrimination: Where do you draw the line?
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