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A TED talk on gay around the world.
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Anyone going to Pride events? Yesterday I went to the Portland Oregon Pride festival. Not sure what to say - glad it happens. I'm more of a bystander observing people. Seemed like there was a lot of "attitude", and grungier than I remember Portland being for a long time. Did not seem all that celebratory. Pride parade is today - maybe better? If other half gets out of bed early enough, he wants to go, so we'll see.
TFA, I should probably be the one apologizing. I didn't mean to be overly morose - it just was what it was. I like the dark humor of the Addams family too. A lot of people had/have it a lot worse, and I came through my experiences OK. In the long term, if we are lucky, life is still what we make of it. There's been plenty of time after that childhood for me to make a different life for myself, and I did.
Sentient, I'm sorry I dragged up a bad period in your life. I've always enjoyed the dark humor of the Addams Family, so I was approaching your reference with levity and lightheartedness. I had no idea the morbid aspect was actually real for you, so I apologize to you. You've related quite a dreary story. Thanks for being so open and for having the courage to share it.
TFA, actually that part was kind of grim. I had an uncle like Fester. He died of stomach cancer when I was 14. I had a cousin whose mother hooked her up with one of those dog leashes that you screw into the ground, and let the dog run around in circles barking. Only it was Nancy. I never saw that, but my great aunt swore that's why Nancy was different. Nancy was held back in high school, and graduated the same year as my older brother. The running high school joke was that if the 2 of them got married, they would "keep it all in the family" People would ask if I was related and I would saw, "how interesting, they DO have the same last name as mine". I originally had a big extended family, but every year around Xmas one of them would die. When I was 15 my mom confided in me, "I wonder who it will be this year?" I was worried that they wouldn't warn the next victim in advance, and that meant it might be me. That year it was my grandfather's sister. Everyone but me had the flu, so I had to choose the casket and flowers, and arrange the funeral. I think white poinsettas make a strikingly beautiful arrangement on a white casket with silvery handles. I could go on. For what it's worth, it was a LOT more normal than Augustin Burroughs life. Never once did they farm me out to a shrink with a pederastic son. Not once.
The Addams Family?!! That's really cool. You need to explain that one to us.
Awesome family life! That's wonderful. Mine was more like a cross between 'The Waltons" and "The Addams family". Not to complain. I mess them.
I haven't the slightest idea who thought what about me and when. I'd have to sit down and interview my parents and siblings. I wonder if my parents and one older brother and two older sisters talked about it amongst themselves or with each other. To this day we've never had that conversation. I can honestly say that I was NEVER treated ill or made fun of by any family member for any perceived sexuality or femininity, although I'm sure it was apparent at a young age. I have a great family. Growing up we were probably a cross between the hi-jinx of the Brady Brunch (without the oozing saccharine) and the Partridge Family (without the showbiz and the hipness.) All I can tell you is that I knew I was "different" at a very young age (4 or 5), and to me being different meant feeling free to be myself, eccentric and refreshingly unique. My family always embraced those qualities in me in a non-gay way. They still do.
How old were you before people decided you were LGBT? In my case, about 4 would be right. I know in retrospect, plus at one point my mother told me people were afraid I would turn out "different". It was quite a while later before I figured it out. Everyone knew, no one admitted it. Maybe it's the same for the poor 4 year old who Dallas mentions. Except someone did admit it, and he died for it.
The Joel Burns speech made me cry but it was a good cry! Its one of the most heartfelt speeches i have ever had the pleasure to hear.
SB,all hyperlinks right there take you right to it.;) Thank you. Hope you find it informative and enjoyable.
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