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Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: 8 hours ago

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years. She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group. This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator. We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years. In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment. The same is true regarding atheists. Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them. Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership.

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal). As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots. They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator. Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall. I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Daniel W on March 25, 2013 at 7:55pm: Well everyone, I have major surgery Monday am. This forum is a great place for discussion and friendship. I value all of you.

The indicators look good for positive outcome and recovery, although honestly I am a bit dumbstruck by it.

Once I have computer access afterwards, I'll update you. That could be a couple of days. Best wishes to all.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 25, 2013 at 3:14pm: As a gay man and (as I like to believe) a person of rational, sound mind, I tend to think that, in regards to gay marriage, we have a very strong ground to stand on for winning our case in front of the Supreme Court. However, in the last few days I've read articles pointing to the fact that very often the Supreme Court lags slightly behind the general public on social issues.

Throughout the years we have often referred to the Supreme Court in terms of being more Liberal or more Conservative, but the fact is the Supreme Court, overall, tends to lean conservatively. To be blunt, the Supreme Court is not a progressive institution.

With that in mind, I've been thinking about the ramifications of what would happen if the Supreme Court didn't rule in our favor. I think the result would be absolutely devastating and would set our movement back by decades. It would also give license to certain groups and individuals to brutally treat us as unequal and second-class citizens.

Admittedly, I guess this upcoming marriage debate has gotten me a bit on edge. There's so much at stake.

Comment by Daniel W on March 25, 2013 at 1:24pm: Discussion of polling - is support for marriage equality as strong as reports claim? There is some debate. NYTimes

It's always strange to think I might be an a room full of people, and half of them think I don't deserve the same rights and responsibilities that they take for granted. That they think they are so special. Then again, it's a lot better than it used to be.

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 25, 2013 at 12:13am: Here's a BBC article with coverage of the French protest:

BBC News

It includes the following interesting information (emphasis mine.)

"Police had banned the protesters from the Champs Elysees, but groups of them broke through to the avenue.

Officers used batons and tear gas to try to dislodge several hundred people who gathered there as the main demonstration ended.

Mr Valls said the remaining protesters were mostly from far-right groups.

However, the head of the centre-right opposition UMP party, Jean-François Cope, said some families on the protest had been caught up in the tear gas."

So, according to the BBC, it appears the protest had officially ended but some participants took it upon themselves to continue protesting and to move it into an unapproved area.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 24, 2013 at 11:38pm: It's down right irresponsible to bring children into the environment of a contentious protest. The fact that riot police were stationed on the premises and ready to spring into action if necessary should be red flag number one for any caring parent to keep the kids at home.

Upon the first sign of violence, those parents should have turned those baby strollers right around and headed in the opposite direction, quickly. But they didn't. Completely irresponsible.

Comment by Daniel W on March 24, 2013 at 10:48pm: French "protect the children" homophobic protesters,, using their toddlers as human shields against the tear gas.... americablog.com

like so much news, who who knows the full story? how much is true? If it is true, pretty damnable behavior, putting ones children in harms way to protect other children from having loving same sex parents. assholes.

Comment by Daniel W on March 24, 2013 at 3:28pm: Oh well.... I was trying to be positive. Here via joe.my.god, Paris now looking like a place for haters. Then again, relative # compared to the overall population is not a lot.

I hope the US doesn't try to one-up the French. We could label marriage equality "Freedom marriage" like they did French fries a few years back?

Comment by Daniel W on March 24, 2013 at 2:29pm: Susan,

Thnks for posting that.

Carl, you are absolutely right. I'm amazed at the progress. The "anti-equality" neanderthals are becoming increasingly defensive in the US ("why do they call us bigots? That's so mean! It's bullying!") and their lies more and more transparent.

James, that's a pretty frock he's wearing. Love the color.

Dallas, I didn't read in detail - also saw that on Joe.my.god I think. I can find some cro-magnon cretins around here too. Fortunately, they often have a short life span, due to unhealthy practices, smoking, alcohol, meth, and getting stomped to death in bars.