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Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 12, 2017 at 9:28am

Bertold, you bring up a good point about religion and child abuse.  While society presently doesn't equate religion in its entirety as abuse, at least we are seeing legislation banning gay conversion therapy, in addition to laws already in place banning FGM.  And we're also seeing pushback against religious exemptions when it comes to vaccinations and withholding medical care.  At least some of these worst practices are being eschewed.  . 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 12, 2017 at 9:15am

That's a very hard question to answer, Plinius.  Parents who induct children into religion really do believe they are doing a right and moral deed.  Fundamentalists aside, even the vast majority of religious people who make up watered-down, mainstream religions think what they are doing is innocuous.

Since terminating religion cannot be legislated away, we can only rely on changing minds.  Fortunately being non-religious is the current trend, despite how excruciatingly slow it is happening.  

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 12, 2017 at 6:38am

Who was it who said:

"Religion is like a penis.

It's fine to have one. It's fine to be proud of it.

But please don't wave it around in public.

And do not try to shove it down my children's throats."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 12, 2017 at 6:37am

Hopefully one day indoctrinating children into religious beliefs will be recognized as child abuse.

Comment by Plinius on May 12, 2017 at 4:45am

What do you think of the freedom of parents to shove religion down their childrens' throats? Where does that freedom end and the freedom of the child start?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 10, 2017 at 8:18pm

I went to Catholic school through 8th grade, and by then I'd had more than a lifetime supply. Religious freedom is a good thing, and an important thing. But let's not forget that it means everyone's free to believe whatever bullshit they want. It doesn't mean they get to shove it down other people's throats.

Comment by Andrew on May 10, 2017 at 7:59pm
From my early childhood, I was inculcated into a fundamentalist xian church. By the time I was in my teens, I was pretty much in the full rebellion mode and totally eschewed the whole thing by adulthood. These people show their true colors when they're behind legislation to restrict the rights of others based on their own world view. How these misguided fools can claim to espouse love while harshly judging those unlike themselves is more than a paradox. It's a threat to the rest of us.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 9, 2017 at 6:27pm

Those arguments are akin to "I don't care if you're gay. Just don't kiss or hold hands in public or tell me you're gay.  Why do you feel the need to shove it down my throat?"  

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 9, 2017 at 5:25pm

Bertold, that sounds just like arguments I heard when I was a kid, discouraging interracial male-female couples from marrying and having children because their children would be harassed. (And their children wouldn't have a clear identity and heritage, etc.)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 9, 2017 at 4:46pm

Andrew & GC - one of my favorite arguments coming out of the metastasized-hypocrisy-persecution complex is that gay couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt because their children will be harassed. Never mind that it's precisely these very same assholes doing the harassing.

 

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