LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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The I in LGBTI

Discussion Forum

Gender Identity and Sustainability

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26. 0 Replies

Epigenetics and sexual orientation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 8. 0 Replies

Gaydar doesn't exist and it's bad?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel W Sep 13. 2 Replies

Homophobia as pathology

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11. 0 Replies

The Trans Issue

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Denise Deiloh Sep 3. 4 Replies

Does Obama's gay advocacy exclude trans

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 27. 5 Replies

Betty Bowers on PRIDE

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Daniel W Jun 5. 1 Reply

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2015 at 2:39pm

Change means leaving behind old rules that define who one is, what one's purpose in life is, and how one should think and act, even if the thoughts and actions do not fulfill the needs of the individual or the family. 

Change? What? No god? No angels? No Jesus? No heaven or hell? No obedience or submission? No morals? No rules? No bible? 

Who can a religious person trust if he or she can't trust in the words of the holy or the beliefs of the ancestors? 

Change means having to find the difference between right and wrong for oneself. It means there is no god to hear prayers or no Jesus to save. If he or she has no one or thing in which to put one's faith, how is one to know how to act, what to think, how to love, who to hate? 

Change means not having dominion over wives and children for men and not having a husband or father to control one's life for women. 

Change to what? Chaos? Disorder? Anarchy? Turmoil?  A woman cannot possibly allow that to happen; A man cannot permit it.

After all, the bible is holy! God exists and judges! Jesus sacrificed himself for others! Tradition maintains order! Change cannot possibly happen.  

Comment by Loren Miller on June 23, 2015 at 2:16pm

Would someone care
For a breath of fresh air?

There ... and I don't even use Tylenol.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 19, 2015 at 9:30pm

There sure are a lot of nekkid emperors still parading around!  I wonder if the churches will ever be as financially bankrupt as they are morally.  (Then all the land they own could be put to better use, for one thing.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 19, 2015 at 7:40pm

It is the hypocrisy that amazes me. I guess I am still a naive girl who believes priests and police keep us safe. ye gads! How foolish my thoughts.  

Telling the truth, out loud, so others can hear me, is not the bad thing I learned as a child. "If you can't say something nice about someone don't say anything!" 

That is just plain bullshit! Another "truism" bites the dust. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 19, 2015 at 6:00pm

Former Archbishop of St. Paul, John Nienstedt, as is the wont of those fun-loving Catholics, metastasized hypocrisy into an art form by a.) spending $800K of the Catholics'  cash in the attempt to squelch marriage equality in Minnesota and b.) repeatedly coercing priests into having sex with him. I guess for the Catholics sauce for the goose ain't nothin like sauce for the gander.

Comment by Daniel W on June 18, 2015 at 8:44pm
You're all much more optimistic about people than I am. I can't get out of my head the idea that it's just scapegoating and clannishness. So many people just need the demonizable "other" to crucify. And the scape goat - "I'm not perfect but at least I'm not one of those disgusting perverts" and then make up more evils, so the demonized other is even more vile, justifying the hatred.
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 18, 2015 at 4:35pm

Comment by sk8eycat on June 18, 2015 at 11:42am

Religion is the sacred meaning of their existence

That's more pathetic than collecting "friends" on FlakesBook.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 18, 2015 at 11:12am

My parents never (or rarely) talked about any "good old daze."  When my dad finally earned his MBA in 1932 (with the aid of an extremely wealthy aunt) the only job he could get was driving a gasoline tanker truck over Cajon Pass....armed.

The most thrilling thing in my mother's life (and mine) was the Apollo 11 moon landing. 

Neither parent ever looked back with nostalgia, except for the times they went to concerts at the Hollywood Bowl or visited the Disney Studio, always with Aunt Grace.  (She was a major backer of "Snow White.")

(I think my mother also enjoyed flying in to Salt Lake City to see her bratty daughter in the HOI chorus line....I made an ass of myself.)

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 18, 2015 at 8:09am

WTF are the bigots afraid of?

You're quite right, Loren.  Additionally, the people who are the most vocal and opposed are also the most religious.  Religion is the sacred meaning of their existence and of their entire belief system.  When gay marriage is validated in our society, their entire belief system is shaken to the core and invalidates everything they stand for that makes them "special."  That's what scares them. 


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