LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: yesterday

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 24, 2013 at 12:55pm

Loren, you're quite correct.  You'll notice that the opposition to gay marriage has fallen into two distinct camps.  The first camp outright opposes gay marriage for religious reasons.....period.  Then you have the second camp who are "smart" enough to realize that using the religious argument is not a winnable strategy in court.  Instead they have widened their argument beyond two same-sex people getting married and have included with their opposition the whole family unit, proclaiming (using made up pseudo-sociological "science"), "What about the children?"  They insist that children MUST have both a female and a male parent in order to live a normal life.  They insist that same-gender parents are somehow harmful to children despite evidence to the contrary.  And there are actually fringe members of this group who have even suggested that adopted children of opposite sex parents are somehow on a lower level tier of legitimacy, therefore making adopted children of same sex parents and even worse proposition. 

If this wasn't such a serious topic with serious ramifications, their arguments would be laughable.  But I'm not laughing.  I'm utterly disgusted. 

Comment by Loren Miller on March 24, 2013 at 7:50am

Between Dallas' and James' last two links, I think what is going on is obvious: there are people out there who want the right to discriminate.  Some use the church and the bible as excuses; some are just bigoted.

While they have a right to their opinions, the realization of those opinions have no place in government at any level.

Comment by James M. Martin on March 23, 2013 at 6:10pm
Comment by Daniel W on March 21, 2013 at 8:46pm

I get frustrated by the power of the internet to inflate, inflame, misinform, and propagandize.  It's so hard to sort it out.  When I learn a report of abuse is fake, it pisses me off royally.

Reminds me of a local "gay leader" who I knew in Indiana in the early 80s.  He was supposedly getting death threats.  It always got a lot of attention.  But no proof was ever offered.  Was it true?  Passive aggressive manipulation?  I never knew, and never will.

Integrity is one of the most important things we can have.  No one is perfect, of course.  But when people quit believing you, and become angry at being manipulated.....  Cry wolf.

I'd rather say woof.

Comment by Daniel W on March 21, 2013 at 7:35pm

Christianity:  murder, torture, abuse, discrimination, rape, violence, lies, misinformation, bullying, aggression, ignorance, exploitation.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 21, 2013 at 6:37pm

Sorry, the video link didn't show in my previous post:

Christians Burning people alive in Kenya suspected of witchcraft.  (Warning:  very graphic.)

video

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 21, 2013 at 6:28pm

Story update/revision.  In the interest of providing truth and facts I offer the following:

Stoning Death Of Gay Somali May Never Have Happened

lezgetreal.com

"LGBTQ Nation is reporting that they cannot confirm the story of a allegedly gay Somali teen who was reportedly stoned to death last week as punishment for being gay. This is an unfortunate reality with regards to Somalia. The nation basically has no functioning government and little in the way of reliable news."

That being said, worldwide human rights groups are quite aware that vigilante justice commonly occurs throughout certain regions of some African countries.  As this article further states:

"This is not the first time that a story about a supposedly gay man being executed horrifically in Africa has proven to be only partially true. A graphic video of a man being lit on fire while wearing a tire that circulated in 2011 proved to be true up to a point. A man was executed, but he had been accused by the local mob of being a thief, not of being gay."

And last year, this horrific video surfaced. 

Christians Burning people alive in Kenya suspected of witchcraft.  (Warning:  very graphic.)

Comment by Daniel W on March 20, 2013 at 5:18pm

Islam:  murder, torture, abuse, discrimination, rape, violence, lies, misinformation, bullying, aggression, ignorance, exploitation.  

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 20, 2013 at 2:00pm

Another sad day for humanity:

18-Year Old Stoned To Death In Somalia For Being Gay

lezgetreal.com

An allegedly gay man Mohamed Ali Baashi was buried in the ground up to his chest and stoned to death on 15 March in Barawe some fifty miles form the Somali capital of Mogadishu. According to reports, Al-Qaeda linked Al Shabaab ordered the attack after charging and finding Baashi guilty of sodomy. Members of Al Shabaab stood behind the judges who passed sentence while wearing face masks and showing off their rifles.

Comment by Daniel W on March 7, 2013 at 10:04pm

Should this woman should be given the same treatment she gave her son?  

I guess not.  But sometimes I wonder.

 

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