LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by Plinius on May 12, 2017 at 4:45am

What do you think of the freedom of parents to shove religion down their childrens' throats? Where does that freedom end and the freedom of the child start?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 10, 2017 at 8:18pm

I went to Catholic school through 8th grade, and by then I'd had more than a lifetime supply. Religious freedom is a good thing, and an important thing. But let's not forget that it means everyone's free to believe whatever bullshit they want. It doesn't mean they get to shove it down other people's throats.

Comment by Andrew on May 10, 2017 at 7:59pm
From my early childhood, I was inculcated into a fundamentalist xian church. By the time I was in my teens, I was pretty much in the full rebellion mode and totally eschewed the whole thing by adulthood. These people show their true colors when they're behind legislation to restrict the rights of others based on their own world view. How these misguided fools can claim to espouse love while harshly judging those unlike themselves is more than a paradox. It's a threat to the rest of us.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 9, 2017 at 6:27pm

Those arguments are akin to "I don't care if you're gay. Just don't kiss or hold hands in public or tell me you're gay.  Why do you feel the need to shove it down my throat?"  

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 9, 2017 at 5:25pm

Bertold, that sounds just like arguments I heard when I was a kid, discouraging interracial male-female couples from marrying and having children because their children would be harassed. (And their children wouldn't have a clear identity and heritage, etc.)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 9, 2017 at 4:46pm

Andrew & GC - one of my favorite arguments coming out of the metastasized-hypocrisy-persecution complex is that gay couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt because their children will be harassed. Never mind that it's precisely these very same assholes doing the harassing.

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 9, 2017 at 4:15pm

Ruth has written before about the Persecutor-Victim-Rescuer triangle, a pattern in which people see and define themselves exclusively in terms of those three roles. Notably, if you're a victim (in reality or imagination) long enough, you collect "anger stamps" and "self-pity stamps" which you can cash in for "free" attacks and persecution on your (real or imagined) persecutors, all morally OK because "they deserve it!"

Comment by Andrew on May 9, 2017 at 1:37pm
The big lie is that the persecutors claim to be the persecuted. It's an outrage that people are given a pass to discriminate by invoking their cockamamie bullshit religious beliefs. Adding insult to injury is that these entities are supported by our tax dollars. There is a daily assault going on to dismantle the establishment clause.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 8, 2017 at 9:56pm

Too true, Carl. There's this cheery news too:

Alabama signs law allowing adoption agencies to refuse gay couples

There's nothing like making bigotry great again!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 8, 2017 at 9:50pm

"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."

~ 1 Philippians 4:13

Just another of the lies preached, taught, and promised to frightened, hurt, and depressed people who feel and think they are helpless. Turning to dependency, or external and supernatural powers does not lead to remedies; rather, submitting to such devices creates victims. 


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