LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 17
Latest Activity: Oct 10

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

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As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 6, 2017 at 12:38pm

Trump’s Executive Order Spared LGBTQ People. Trumpcare Could Kill T...

The House trumpcare's Planned Parenthood defunding hits twice for queer and transgender Americans, many of whom depend on Medicaid and rely on Planned Parenthood for sensitive care or transition services.

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 6, 2017 at 5:42am

The Johnson  Amendment is only as good as its enforcement, and the president* basically told the IRS to not worry about it. Granted, it's never been enforced strongly, with only one church ever losing its tax-exempt status over partisan politicking (the Church at Pierce Creek, Conklin, NY, over newspaper ads telling Christians they could not vote for Bill Clinton).

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 4, 2017 at 10:05pm

Carl --

I agree that I don't see anything remotely optimistic for equality in all of this. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 4, 2017 at 7:25pm

You're right, Bertold.  The Daily Beast sure has an "interesting take" on the religious liberty executive order.  After reading the article, I'm not totally on board with their line of thinking.  

I'm not very optimistic about any positive effect this will have on LGBT rights.  To suggest that the religious right will now need to attack the LGBT community "directly" instead of under the banner of religious freedom is ludicrous.  Am I missing the logic of that argument?  They have been attacking us directly for millennia.

What I am extremely concerned about is not only the nullification of the Johnson Amendment and the further corrosion of the separation of state and church, but the further elevation in status the state is giving religion over all other non-profits.  The Daily Beast doesn't seem too concerned over these details.      

Comment by Loren Miller on May 4, 2017 at 6:38pm

The "persecution" Christians are currently complaining about amounts to no more than the progressive loss of privilege Christianity and other religions are facing in the US.  They used to be on the top of the heap.  Now, not so much, and they don't like it.

I'm beginning to think that an ad campaign informing them of their misapprehension needs to happen.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 4, 2017 at 6:22pm

Kind of an interesting take on the "religious liberty" executive order:

Trump’s Religious Liberty Executive Order Is a Triumph of Fake News


The Christian Right invented a non-existent problem, persecution by the government, and the president obliged them.

[Daily Beast]

The order does not allow greater discrimination against LGBT people by those with a religious excuse. That absence speaks volumes, and may well portend a significant transformation in LGBT equality.


But what the order does do is solves two problems that simply do not exist.

Comment by Plinius on April 29, 2017 at 3:22am

Nobody should feel so isolated

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 27, 2017 at 7:03am

Oh, I forgot to mention, Mr. Yeong-jin from the video below wrote a book/memoir entitled A Mark of Red Honor.  Apparently it's in the process of being translated to English at this time.  I can't find any information about publishing or a release date, but it's definitely something to look for.

https://www.eahrnk.org/articles/memoirs/jang-yeong-jin

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 27, 2017 at 6:42am

It's hard to even imagine the severity of information suppression which occurs in North Korea, as mentioned in this video.  

What it's like to be gay in North Korea

Comment by Loren Miller on April 24, 2017 at 10:36pm

The thing is, Melania blew it with that comment she made about Obama's birth certificate.  She could have stayed away from that and been semi-okay, at least.  But NOOOOOOO!  She had to be a big shot, didn't she? / She had to open up her mouth!

 

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