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Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Mean Sally says, "Go kill yourself!"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 31. 9 Replies

Way of the Mister: Murder the Gays!!! (Brian Dalton)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 18, 2015. 16 Replies

Gender Identity and Sustainability

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26, 2015. 0 Replies

Epigenetics and sexual orientation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 8, 2015. 0 Replies

Gaydar doesn't exist and it's bad?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel W Sep 13, 2015. 2 Replies

Homophobia as pathology

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11, 2015. 0 Replies

The Trans Issue

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Denise Deiloh Sep 3, 2015. 4 Replies

Does Obama's gay advocacy exclude trans

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 27, 2015. 5 Replies

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Comment by Loren Miller on February 20, 2015 at 4:13pm

The doctor's actions amount to no more than religiously sanctioned bigotry.  If he had no knowledge regarding the parents or if one of the parents came in with the child, he could easily have thought that she was a single mother.  Done and done.

Those who promote kind of crap, along with related issues such as the failure to service birth control prescriptions for religious reasons, need to be called on for it until they either are willing to change their stance or find another profession.  This is SERVICE we're talking about, something I take very damned seriously, and if they are not willing to serve, they don't belong in the business.

Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2015 at 2:45pm
sorry about typos. damn virtual keypad.
Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2015 at 2:44pm
I consider it unethical to refuse care, simply because someone does not have the same practices or beleifs that I do. In all of my training I was taught that providing medical care superceded individual beleif.

I dont give a damn about descrimination by cake bakers and florists, but medical caregivers shoukd not have the dight to descriminate.

What is especislly heinous is this smug pediatritian's punishing a newborn because the child's mothers are Lesbian. Would she discriminate against christians not inher denomination? Against Muslims, or Jews, or (gasp) atheists?

Discrimating against a CHiLD because the PARENTS are gay. Her license should be revoked.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 20, 2015 at 1:59pm

Apparently the good doctor did take her hypocritical oath seriously:

On February 9, four months after the discrimination took place, the Contreras family finally received a hand-written letter from [Dr.] Roi. She apologized, but explained, “After much prayer following your prenatal, I felt that I would not be able to develop the personal patient-doctor relationship that I normally do with my patients.” She admitted that she should have spoken to them that day instead of leaving a colleague to break the news, but she provided no clear explanation for the treatment. “Please know that I believe that God gives us free choice,” Roi wrote, “and I would never judge anyone based on what they do with that free choice.”

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 20, 2015 at 1:21am

This is what Hitchens said so powerfully,

Hitchens: Why fight religion?

For the doctor who would not take as a patient the child of same-sex parents, confusing loyalty to dogma before her hippocratic oath tells the parents all they need to know ... this doctor is not for them. 

Just another example of what Steven Weinstein said, 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 19, 2015 at 4:44pm

She had met with the couple a few months earlier and seemed reasonable. Then when they showed up for the appointment they were told by a colleague of the doctor's that she had "prayed on it" and couldn't help their baby. In fact she didn't even come in to work that day.  I'd say that goes beyond unethical and on into the realm of evil. But it's evil in the name of god so it's OK. I guess she took her hypocritical oath to heart.

Comment by Daniel W on February 19, 2015 at 4:34pm
Bertold thst doctor's behavior is unethical.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 19, 2015 at 2:59pm

A Michigan doctor refused to treat a six-day old baby with same-sex parents  because religious freedom.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 17, 2015 at 12:40am

Comment by Daniel W on February 15, 2015 at 3:41pm

Joan, I hope so too.  He did pose nude for a gay magazine cover, which used the scandal as a selling point.  I just now discovered that via google.  Sam Adams should have known better. 

 

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