LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 17
Latest Activity: Oct 10

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Daniel W on November 26, 2016 at 12:31am

I don't know if i should put something personal here, but I will.  What is it with my family?  My gaydar tells me that of 6 kids (brother, cousins, me)  in my generation, at least 3 were/are gay (one is dead but maybe just mentally ill and not gay)  and one is maybe asexual.  Of the next generation, the oldest is a college freshman and just came out of the closet on Facebook.  No wonder my name is so rare.  My grandfather had 3 sibs who lived to adulthood, but only he married and had kids himself (3) and I wondered about one of those.  No wonder my name is so rare.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 16, 2016 at 5:13pm

Here we go, back to the past.

The GOP’s Anti-LGBT, Anti-Women ‘Religious Freedom’ Law on Steroids
The First Amendment Defense Act would allow hospitals, governments, universities, and businesses to ignore same-sex marriage, deny women healthcare, and fire gay people.

Comment by Daniel W on November 7, 2016 at 8:33am

GC, we'll see if McMullin wins anything.  Western states can be hard to fathom some times.  There is s strong conservative streak of antigovernmentalism and anti-Wash DC in particular. 

To get away from anything related to the USA's egotistical and self absorbed shallow election politics, and look at Catholicism's egotistical and self absorbed shallow bigotry...

Italian priest blames earthquakes on acceptance of gay unions.  The surprisingly nice part is "Archbishop Angelo Becciu, number two in the Vatican's powerful Secretariat of State, said Cavalcoli's comments were "offensive to believers and disgraceful for non-believers", in remarks reported by Italian media."

Not everyone thinks the Italian quakes are due to increasing accceptance of Sodomites.  In Israel, a lawmaker blamed the quakes on "divine retribution for Italy’s abstention from the recent UNESCO vote ignoring Jewish ties to the Temple Mount".  Jehovah is a busy fella, following these political obscurities.

It's actually the fault of scientists, for inventing plate tectonics.  Without continental drift, there would be no earthquakes.  Except in Oklahoma, but those recent earthquakes really are god's punishment for Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin.

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 2, 2016 at 12:04pm

Ruth sent me an article about an unlikely but not impossible scenario: How Evan McMullin Could Win Utah And The Presidency (

We could have a President McMullin, rather than Clinton or tRump, if:

  1. McMullin wins Utah (getting some electoral votes),
  2. The Electoral College deadlocks (neither tRump nor Clinton gets 270 electoral votes) -- in which case the House chooses the president from among the top three candidates, and the Senate chooses the VP from among the top two.
    In the House, there's one vote per state delegation, majority required; and if they're still deadlocked by Inauguration Day, the vice-president becomes acting president.
  3. tRump loses enough House Republican support that nobody has a majority; and the party that loses in the Senate decides that McMullin/Pence is preferable to having Pence in charge, or that McMullin/Kaine is preferable to Kaine.
Comment by Daniel W on November 1, 2016 at 11:02am

GC, thanks for the comments.  I wish people would just get over it, if they don't like gay marriage then they should not gay marry.  And leave the rest of us alone.

Meanwhile in the news, you may know thatin Utah there is a conservative man Evan McMIllan, running mainly against Trump, and he has a fair chance of winning the vote there.  So now a White Nationalist Trump supporter has bought robocalls claiming McMIllan's mother is Lesbian and he himself is at least a closet case.  Trump has distanced himself from Johnson for his white nationalist sensibilities.

It's just the standard, "They might be gay" or "They are gay" or "Their mother is gay" hate mongering.  Sometimes it works.  The problem for such practices these days is, to a significant degree, most people don't beleive anything that anyone is saying, unless they are people who we support.  Even then I think a lot of us don't beleive anything they are saying, but let them fight lies with other lies, or fight framing and posturing with more framing and posturing.

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 1, 2016 at 7:37am

If someone -- "patient zero" or not -- knowingly spread a horrible disease to other people, selfish recklessness is exactly the right term!

Bertold, very well said! Especially in view of one well-known world religion forbidding its authority figures from marrying or having sexual relationships -- it's ironic and backwards that supposedly celibate priests and bishops give advice and issue dicta on marriage! The analogy extends equally well to people who love cookies but hate donuts, and don't want to see anyone else eating them.

I was glad to see this graphic of mine (unfortunately still relevant post-Obergefell) show up in a few other places on the web:

Claiming that someone else's marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a doughnut because you're on a diet. [Background: pink frosted donut with colored sprinkles, a big bite taken from it, fading to grayish tones at the bottom]

Comment by Daniel W on October 31, 2016 at 5:29am

Kathy, Ive seen several articles about Degas.  I have a hard time thinking about someone who had clear symptoms of a horrible disease, knowingly spreading it to others.  He wasnt patient zero after all, but I dont like what looks like his denial and selfish recklessness.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 31, 2016 at 12:40am

Comment by kathy: ky on October 26, 2016 at 8:20pm
Did anyone else catch the article in the LA Times, today, about patient o being found not to be the original carrier of the HIV virus found in the US? Seems that it was all a misunderstanding. I can't recall the name of the movie but it made him out to be the really bad guy.
Comment by Grinning Cat on October 25, 2016 at 3:30pm

Amen, Spud!
(In the original sense, "Hear, hear! I believe it!" No spooks needed.)

A much better question than "What does God want? What makes God happy?" -- when the universe, and our planet, and human and other life look exactly as we'd expect with no gods -- is "What's best for us? What makes us happy?" Hopefully with a broad view of "us" that includes all of our fellow human beings.

Reposting a comment of Joan's:

Morals and ethics come from being born a social animal (picture: an International Space Station crew, over a background of the Earth seen from space)


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