LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: on Thursday

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 27, 2016 at 1:00pm

Comment by Daniel W on August 27, 2016 at 12:54pm
Im guessing that Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin is thinking that sexuality of priests should be kept in the church, like it always had been.

Way back when, when Fred Flintstone was sneaking off with Barney Rubble among the herds of stegosaurus, I briefly dated a priest. He was a beautiful black-Irish man, intense and emotionally tortured. It didnt last long. That was during my pastor phase between a methodist minister and an African Episcopal Methodist pastor intern, both of ehome then joined the army. I thought it was something I did, so stayed away from ministers after that.

As fir Bishop Ken Adkins, you are right. I hope he gets what he deserves. Every time we turn around, there are clergy molesting kids. Those clergy should all be forced to electrical penis cages that administer a jolt of 220Volts every time they come into proximity of children.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 27, 2016 at 12:38pm

Proving yet again that life imitates art--

Pastor Who Celebrated Orlando Massacre Arrested For Molesting Boy

And speaking of getting what you deserve!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 26, 2016 at 2:05pm

Horndog fledgling priests:

Ireland's Future Priests Allegedly Can't Keep Off Grindr

  • (NEWSER) – There are "strange going-ons"—in the words of the Archbishop of Dublin—at Ireland's major seminary, where trainee priests are being accused of using Grindr, the Telegraph reports. "An app like that is something which would be fostering promiscuous sexuality, which is certainly not in any way the mature vision of sexuality one would expect a priest to understand," the BBC quotes Archbishop Diarmuid Martin as saying. But priests-to-be using a gay hookup app is just one of the accusations being leveled at St. Patrick's College. According to the Irish Times, there are also reports of students at the seminary using the straight hookup app Tinder, former seminarians allege bullying and harassment, and college trustees say there is an "unhealthy atmosphere there."

Comment by Daniel W on August 25, 2016 at 12:38pm
Nearly half of out LGBT Olympians earned medals in Rio.

So now LGBT people are superhuman. I feel so inadequate :-)
Comment by Daniel W on August 20, 2016 at 9:43pm
Some German gay men seeking reparations from recent and remote bigotry and human rights violations. Germany still doesnt have gay marriage.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 19, 2016 at 12:37pm

Daniel & Grinning Cat, thanks for the listing of options. I think if I had such a partner, male or female, married or not, I would call him or her "Spice". You guys make my day. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on August 19, 2016 at 10:16am

Daniel: calling your partner "Who died and made you Emperor?" - heh!

I've encountered a few married female-male* couples that refer to each other as their partners. And I'm all for rejecting the narrow gender roles implied in the etymology of "husband" ("male head of a household, master of a house", whereas "wife" once meant simply "woman").**

(And I do know one male-female couple who'll sometimes semi-jokingly call each other "Spouse".***)

I also see "wife" and "husband" as entrenched, widely understood words for spouses, words that have shifted from their original connotations. My impression is that men talking about their husbands, and women talking about their wives, have helped many straight people see same-sex marriage for what it is: not some separate institution of "gay marriage" but a natural part of marriage.

But whatever particular partners call each other (politely, in public, and without trying to impose roles on the rest of us, like someone insisting they be addressed as "Lord and Master"), I'll follow their lead.


* Interesting how various expressions such as "male and female", "husband and wife", "he or she", invariably put the man first. When I'm paying attention I often consciously break that pattern. ("'Man' is a false generic, as in 'Man, being a mammal, breastfeeds his young.'")

** Other languages can be worse: I remember reading about Israeli feminists proposing a replacement for the Hebrew term for "husband", which is literally the same word as "master, lord, owner", whereas "wife" is the same word as "woman". They suggested that a man's spouse refer to him as "my man", parallel to how a woman's spouse refers to her as "my woman". No idea how well that caught on.

*** The plural of "spouse" might well be "spice", for some! :)

Comment by Daniel W on August 19, 2016 at 8:14am
Joan, it depends on their behavior. Sometimes I refer to mine as "who died and made you emperor of China?" But that doesnt answer your question.

it depends. Some use the terms "husband" for men or "wife" for women. Some use the word "partner". As long as one is well meaning and doesn't say "your co-Sodomite", no one should mind. If they do, that's their problem.

Personally I use the word "partner". What could be better than to have a partner in life? Why retread old sex role - ridden terms? But I may not be politically correct.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 19, 2016 at 12:52am

I hate to admit my ignorance, but how do GLBTQ refer to their partners? 


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