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Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 27, 2015 at 11:44pm

Yes, Loren, you are correct.  It's a slow, baby steps process to enlightenment. 

Perhaps we will be lucky to soon see a surge in atheism take place in the same rapid manner in which marriage equality advanced.  We can only hope.

I have a feeling in my gut that religion is on the verge of receiving a serious backlash from sane-thinking people, both non-religious AND the moderately religious.  Rational people are fed up with extremist ideologies both abroad and here in the US.  Rational people don't take kindly to churches denying access to birth control via health care plans or wanting special rights to discriminate against whomever they choose.  It's not only uncivil, but it's undemocratic.  

With every "deeply held religious belief" and "religious freedom" legislation being trumpeted as the cause du jour, the fundamentally religious keep digging themselves into a bigger hole.   

Comment by Loren Miller on July 27, 2015 at 8:33pm
It also reinforces another fundamental principle, Carl: moderation in Christianity effectively means selecting less and less of the most pernicious principles of the bible.

The most moderate Christian winds up being an atheist.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 27, 2015 at 8:04pm

Yeah, that's a refreshing message coming from a clergyman.  It would be nice to hear more from many others like him in that "fire and brimstone" style delivery. 

But what this really blatantly shows is that people create their own personal gods who will conform to and stand for everything they personally believe.  The god of the bible says to stone homosexuals?  Not my loving god! 

These church goers may learn to not be hypocrites, but they sure are being intellectually dishonest with themselves.  I wish they could realize that.  Anyway, if a church is preaching and promoting tolerance to its sheep, I guess I can't complain. 

Comment by Pat on July 27, 2015 at 7:40pm

I have to admit, as much as I dislike what Joliet Jake in the Blues Brothers referred to as Jive Assed Preachers, this guy makes a salient point I can't disagree with. At least his religion didn't completely strip him of his humanity.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 27, 2015 at 6:16pm

I agree with your statement, Joan.  Still, to see at least ONE of the Old Guard come out and do a fairly major mea culpa ... well, it's not something I expect to see every day!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 27, 2015 at 4:29pm

Social change does not come from those who oppress or dominate or benefit from the oppression. Social change comes from those who refuse to submit to the definitions constructed by oppressors. It comes when the oppressed stand with pride and dignity and claim to be who they are, not who others "defined" them. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 27, 2015 at 2:59pm

I'll pass on his concluding line, but except for that it was pretty amazing. Too bad the hypocrisy doesn't become visible to more religionists!

Comment by Loren Miller on July 27, 2015 at 2:21pm

Did you ever wonder when the day would come that a bible-thumper would call his own congregation and organization on their hypocrisy regarding gays and Lesbians?  Thought that would be a rare day in May, didn't you?

Well, it's late July ... and that day may have arrived!  Check THIS out:

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 14, 2015 at 2:44pm

It's always much easier to find a lover than a true friend, but if a lover isn't at least one of your best friends, what's the point?

Comment by sk8eycat on July 12, 2015 at 4:18pm

I have known for decades that conservatives of all types need something, or somebody, to hate. It's part of their nature.

I remember watching the Berlin Wall being destroyed and wondering (knowing it was not the end) who was going to be the next target of the religious wrong..(Even though the xians had nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR.  That was a foregone conclusion when the old Bolsheviks started dying off.)

If non-undergodders are the next target, I think we'll be in deep doo-doo because the Islamic fanatics will probably join them.... while fighting each other at the same time. 

I sincerely hope I'll be dead by then.


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