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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by Loren Miller on July 27, 2015 at 6:16pm

I agree with your statement, Joan.  Still, to see at least ONE of the Old Guard come out and do a fairly major mea culpa ... well, it's not something I expect to see every day!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 27, 2015 at 4:29pm

Social change does not come from those who oppress or dominate or benefit from the oppression. Social change comes from those who refuse to submit to the definitions constructed by oppressors. It comes when the oppressed stand with pride and dignity and claim to be who they are, not who others "defined" them. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 27, 2015 at 2:59pm

I'll pass on his concluding line, but except for that it was pretty amazing. Too bad the hypocrisy doesn't become visible to more religionists!

Comment by Loren Miller on July 27, 2015 at 2:21pm

Did you ever wonder when the day would come that a bible-thumper would call his own congregation and organization on their hypocrisy regarding gays and Lesbians?  Thought that would be a rare day in May, didn't you?

Well, it's late July ... and that day may have arrived!  Check THIS out:

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 14, 2015 at 2:44pm

It's always much easier to find a lover than a true friend, but if a lover isn't at least one of your best friends, what's the point?

Comment by sk8eycat on July 12, 2015 at 4:18pm

I have known for decades that conservatives of all types need something, or somebody, to hate. It's part of their nature.

I remember watching the Berlin Wall being destroyed and wondering (knowing it was not the end) who was going to be the next target of the religious wrong..(Even though the xians had nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR.  That was a foregone conclusion when the old Bolsheviks started dying off.)

If non-undergodders are the next target, I think we'll be in deep doo-doo because the Islamic fanatics will probably join them.... while fighting each other at the same time. 

I sincerely hope I'll be dead by then.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 12, 2015 at 11:27am

VERY good point, Carl, one I've made myself elsewhere.  Equal rights means IN ALL VENUES, including employment and in patronizing services and businesses, and this is very likely to be one more fight toward completely securing those rights.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 12, 2015 at 11:12am

I don't think the GOP and the religious "right" is finished quite yet with demonizing the LGBTQI community.  Yes, we have finally been given equality when it comes to marriage, but there is still a lot of legally sanctioned discrimination still on the books in many states.  We have a lot of opposition ahead of us.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 12, 2015 at 6:17am

Daniel, as it comes to the GOP looking for "another group to demonize," ultimately I still think they may settle on US - atheists.  The problem with such a decision is similar to that with the Mexicans: we're growing in numbers while they're shrinking.

I think this behavior and its history need to be pointed out publicly.  Not only is scapegoating minorities a reflection of their insecurity and an insult to the egalitarian policies which represent the US at its best, it just plain doesn't work in the long run.  If they want to lean on small government and lean spending, traditional Republican planks, I'm fine with that, though I'll still oppose it where it goes too far, but their religiously driven social policies went beyond the pale 10 squares back.

It's time for the GOP to grow up and drop their belief in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and Yahweh.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 12, 2015 at 12:46am

When God was a female, sex with any man was part of her sacred rites, and inheritance (and power) were through the mother's line.

When the Levites, and other male-god worshippers, took over (by conquest) heterosexual marriage became the only acceptable system because each man wanted to make sure each baby was his.  Not taking into consideration the possibility that his wife MIGHT have another lover or three.  This is how all the woman-hating verses crept into the buybull.

I wonder if women who loved other women had anything like turkey-basters, and a willing man on the side....

 

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