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Mean Sally says, "Go kill yourself!"

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 31. 9 Replies

Way of the Mister: Murder the Gays!!! (Brian Dalton)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 18, 2015. 16 Replies

Gender Identity and Sustainability

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26, 2015. 0 Replies

Epigenetics and sexual orientation

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 8, 2015. 0 Replies

Gaydar doesn't exist and it's bad?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel W Sep 13, 2015. 2 Replies

Homophobia as pathology

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11, 2015. 0 Replies

The Trans Issue

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Denise Deiloh Sep 3, 2015. 4 Replies

Does Obama's gay advocacy exclude trans

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 27, 2015. 5 Replies

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 3, 2015 at 6:51pm

KY update - NPR just noted that the County Clerk proposed a compromise by which Kim would be excused from issuing licenses herself if she would promise not to interfere with her clerks. She refused. Most likely at this point she's seeing dollar signs beckoning as much as the gates of heaven.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 3, 2015 at 5:20pm

This should be such a simple and straightforward case, and it could be easily settled, no fuss, no bother. Kim is asking for a special right, not to perform part of her job responsibilities. So, all she needs to do is show incontrovertible proof of her claim, that signing her name to a marriage license for a same-sex couple will directly result in her spending an eternity in hell. If this is true, I'm for her, her request is reasonable. Without that proof? Why are we even wasting money on legal proceedings?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on September 3, 2015 at 3:34pm

LOL, Bertold.That sounds like a good idea.

Good point about bible injunctions and selective behavior, Daniel.

Comment by Daniel W on September 3, 2015 at 2:32pm
I am pretty sure there is nothing in the bible saying that Jesus requires Kim Davis to be the county clerk in Kentucky.

There are some things saying that Kim Davis' serial marriages are adulterous, and that she should be stoned for that. Unclear what kind of stones, but either granite or flint will usually suffice.

How many divorced persons has she refused to allow go remarry?
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 3, 2015 at 1:50pm

Impeachment is probably not terribly likely in KY. How about if instead they sentence her to keep this billboard in her front yard?

Comment by Loren Miller on September 3, 2015 at 1:34pm

Best news I've heard in a while, Pat.  It'd be nice if this incident were a wake-up call for those who think they can bring their religion to work with them and shove it down the throats of those they work with or for, but with the Hobby Lobby decision as backdrop, I'm still not certain.

The way I've heard it to this point, to actually REMOVE her from her job, she needs to be impeached.  Now here's the $64 question: will that actually HAPPEN???

Comment by Pat on September 3, 2015 at 12:50pm

Breaking News! The Kentucky Kristian Klerk who won't follow the law has been found to be in contempt of Court and jailed. Actually, she got what she wanted. Which, IMHO, was attention paid to her. And the Konservative Kristian Klowns were all too eager to make her the poster child for their cause. What I do wonder, however, is this. When the dust settles, and it turns out she has to pay the other side's attorneys fees and costs, is the American Family Council, Tony Perkins, the Liberty Council, or any other right wing group going to step up to the plate and help her financially? Yeah. Didn't think so.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 3, 2015 at 10:50am

Actually both the LGBT community and the atheist community owe Fischer and his ilk a great debt of thanks for making crystal clear to all those millennials listening and watching out there that literalist religion truly is an insane source of bigotry and hatred just as it appears to the even slightly discerning eye.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 3, 2015 at 10:38am

"Like the Holocaust," eh?  Ummm, Bryan?  Who's being killed?!?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 3, 2015 at 9:48am

From JT Eberhard's Patheos column:


Bryan Fischer: Signing same-sex marriage licenses is like the Holocaust

Bryan Fischer, who runs a radio show for the American Family Association, has compared allowing families to legally form (which you’d think a “family” organization would be all about) to the mass murder of an entire class of people based solely on their inherent properties (like race or sexual orientation).

Yes, Kim Davis isn’t just denying a service to gay couples to which they’re legally entitled because she, herself, feels entitled to do so. No, no – she’s taking a bold stand against the Nazis, kind of like a moo moo-wearing Indiana Jones. Because declaring your life-long love for a person is kind of like murdering millions, right?


If you can’t tell the difference between genocide and love then you lose the right to tell anybody that your religion is good for the world. Hell, just look at what it’s done to you.

 

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