LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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Comment by Pat on June 4, 2015 at 6:41pm

Felaine, you're correct in stating that the self-ordained, high school drop out, don't have a GED, all knowing interpreters of the Big Book of Jewish and Christian Fairy Tales will tell you what their imaginary friend wants.

However, I always like to 'eff' with the true believers. When they start on their BS about what the magic man in the sky wants, I ask them if they know the mind of their deity. Of course, they say no one can know. Which leads me to my next question. Then how in the f*&k do you have the gall to tell me what it wants!?

Comment by sk8eycat on June 4, 2015 at 5:03pm

Hemant Mehta on xian criticism against Caitlyn Jenner:

It always amazes me that self-appointed buybull interpreters just know what their imaginary friend thinks about everything.

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 25, 2015 at 9:24pm

Hear, hear! And we can often influence our natures for the better, as with people and groups moving towards a more Partnership-Culture society.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2015 at 7:06pm

I think if a whole lot of people told their stories of leaving religion for other principles, whether rabid radicals or quiet folks, more people would hear our stories. Some would resist hearing us, or call us names, or empower the radical conservatives to put their vitriolic nature into high gear. It doesn't matter. Being vocal is what it will take for those who are non-believers to find each other and celebrate our point of view.  Those who are afraid to listen to us may get a seed of an idea of what it means to be free of dogma and domination. 

Living in the forest, as I do now, and observing the soils being disturbed as we take down trees to prevent fire to our buildings, I see young shoots coming up where once had been a forest. There are roses, Oregon Grape, Lupin, all kinds of wild grasses and young coniferous sprouts springing forth. They don't have to pray or hear the word of some higher power. They just live, vigorously, and with a promise to bring forth their flower or shrub or tree as is their nature.

We don't have to pay or hear the word of some higher power. We have all that we need to become who we are. No one to instruct us or coerce us into obedience. We can observe the forest regrowing into its nature just as each one of us can be a participant observer as we each develop into whatever is our nature.

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 25, 2015 at 5:41pm

A graphic by Rebecca Gardner: (click to enlarge)


Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 25, 2015 at 5:13pm
Yes, Loren, let's hope that wish comes true. With the latest Pew survey results about religion that I know we are all familiar with by now, it certainly is the trend. It's also nice to see people who are moving to the US from South and Latin America where the RCC still has a major stronghold, are much less religious. They are part of a large population trend that will benefit our own hyper-religious population.
Comment by Loren Miller on May 25, 2015 at 2:24pm

Responding to the Vatican's pouting:

So ... the church is upset because gay and Lesbian couples may avail themselves of 21st century technology and medical services in pursuit of their own families.  Meanwhile, the RCC wants to continue living in the 15th century and appears to be confused and distraught at so many not wanting to join them.

More and more, the catholic church seems to be working harder to make themselves totally irrelevant to the people they think they're serving.  They may just get their wish.

Comment by Pat on May 25, 2015 at 2:10pm

Bertold, on Saturday, I was following the Irish vote on the Irish Independent newspaper's website. What was fascinating was to follow the comments section on the live coverage of the election results. These are the same 'boogeyman' arguments the clergy was posting in response to the landslide against the RCC.

The clergy, and those supporting the RCC, were told in no uncertain terms that the scaremongering that was the hallmark of the "No Vote" campaign didn't work, and wouldn't work. Members of the Dáil Éireann (Ireland's legislature), have made it clear that no church will be forced to perform same sex marriage. Another strawman argument destroyed.

Although, I think my favorite comment (among many) was the quote attributed to an elderly man who was coming out of a voting booth in the rural part of the country. When asked how he voted on the referendum, his response was, "I voted for the gays. Sure, and aren't they better than that other lot."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 25, 2015 at 1:29pm

The Vatican responds

(Vatican Radio) Ireland has become the first country in the world to vote to create a constitutional right to so-called same-sex “marriage.”

. . . Concerns have been expressed that the measure may affect religious freedom: the prime minister, Enda Kenny, has already said that Catholic schools will be required to teach same-sex marriage as part of the curriculum.

Campaigners also worry about the effects the 'yes' vote will have on children since it now confers an automatic right to procreate on same-sex couples leading to fears of an upsurge in demand for fertility treatment and surrogacy.

[Really? More fertility treatment and surrogacy?? This is the dire threat posed by gay marriage?? Yikes!!!]

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 24, 2015 at 11:04am

@ Daniel - yes, I wonder how forgiving Huckabee would have been if one of Obama's daughters had touched someone inappropriately.


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