LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: yesterday

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Daniel W on July 12, 2015 at 2:35pm

Bill Nye on homosexuality and evolution.

What a lame answer. It's nice that he was supportive, but apparently he hasn't read anything on the topic since Desmond Morris' "The Naked Ape" in the 60s. There is so much more information. It's well known that in nature, same sex attraction is common for many species. Has Nye heard of something called "Google"?  He could have read this BBC article, or many others.

Much as I like that Nye is a spokesperson for science and rationality, this response was lame.  Too bad for that.

Comment by Daniel W on July 12, 2015 at 1:25pm

No question we will continue to experience discrimination for the rest of our lives.  In addition to the overt discrimination, which we often see and read about, many people will continue to discriminate covertly, and lie while doing it.

One thing I will not do is let the assholes get me down.  I've lived through too much, worked too hard, seen too much.  This is our one life, and I will live it the best I can.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 12, 2015 at 11:27am

VERY good point, Carl, one I've made myself elsewhere.  Equal rights means IN ALL VENUES, including employment and in patronizing services and businesses, and this is very likely to be one more fight toward completely securing those rights.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 12, 2015 at 11:12am

I don't think the GOP and the religious "right" is finished quite yet with demonizing the LGBTQI community.  Yes, we have finally been given equality when it comes to marriage, but there is still a lot of legally sanctioned discrimination still on the books in many states.  We have a lot of opposition ahead of us.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 12, 2015 at 6:17am

Daniel, as it comes to the GOP looking for "another group to demonize," ultimately I still think they may settle on US - atheists.  The problem with such a decision is similar to that with the Mexicans: we're growing in numbers while they're shrinking.

I think this behavior and its history need to be pointed out publicly.  Not only is scapegoating minorities a reflection of their insecurity and an insult to the egalitarian policies which represent the US at its best, it just plain doesn't work in the long run.  If they want to lean on small government and lean spending, traditional Republican planks, I'm fine with that, though I'll still oppose it where it goes too far, but their religiously driven social policies went beyond the pale 10 squares back.

It's time for the GOP to grow up and drop their belief in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and Yahweh.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 12, 2015 at 12:46am

When God was a female, sex with any man was part of her sacred rites, and inheritance (and power) were through the mother's line.

When the Levites, and other male-god worshippers, took over (by conquest) heterosexual marriage became the only acceptable system because each man wanted to make sure each baby was his.  Not taking into consideration the possibility that his wife MIGHT have another lover or three.  This is how all the woman-hating verses crept into the buybull.

I wonder if women who loved other women had anything like turkey-basters, and a willing man on the side....

Comment by Daniel W on July 11, 2015 at 11:14pm
After seeing so many people lie for so long, I try to peel away the lies like layers of an onion. Where is the truth inside?

What if christian horror has nothing to do with traditional marriage, even in their own minds? Which, except for the clueless christion minions, is probably true? What if it's this: For generations, gay men especially have been reviled as disgusting, perveted, evil slimy trolls, out to pervert children and destroy morality, Then, in a historic blink of an eye - wrong! LGBT people are just people! And christians are just people! Not saintly pictures from Norman Rockwell. Suddenly, by saying "We were wrong! Gay people should be equal." That makes the christian. big lie the vile, hateful, self serving lie that it is. And christian hatemongers, not promoters of virtue, but manipulative, self enriching, pandering demagogues. Which they are.

I really don't think they beleive, not for a heartbeat, that marriage equality hurts mixed-sex marriages. No one is that stupid. I think it shows the christian weasels as what they are. And self-enriching by trying to panic the few remaining dumbshits out there who wallow in their own hypocritical self delusion. And the pandering demonic Republicans like Santorum, Huckabee, and Jindal who haven't found another group to demonize to win Tea Farty votes - unlike trump who has now discovered Mexicans.
Comment by sk8eycat on July 11, 2015 at 10:07pm

I'm joining the laff-riot. 

(Rabbits are not necessarily fwightened widdle animals; they just know how to be quiet and mind their own business.  AND when it's needful, they can really BITE!  Been there...still have a few scars.)

Comment by Loren Miller on July 11, 2015 at 8:19pm

OHMYDARWIN!!!  Queer Weddings???  EEEEWWWWWWW!
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ROFLMFAO!!!  Bunch of clueless, frightened little rabbits!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 11, 2015 at 7:27pm

Queer weddings?

 

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