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Comment by Loren Miller on February 20, 2015 at 4:13pm

The doctor's actions amount to no more than religiously sanctioned bigotry.  If he had no knowledge regarding the parents or if one of the parents came in with the child, he could easily have thought that she was a single mother.  Done and done.

Those who promote kind of crap, along with related issues such as the failure to service birth control prescriptions for religious reasons, need to be called on for it until they either are willing to change their stance or find another profession.  This is SERVICE we're talking about, something I take very damned seriously, and if they are not willing to serve, they don't belong in the business.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 20, 2015 at 1:59pm

Apparently the good doctor did take her hypocritical oath seriously:

On February 9, four months after the discrimination took place, the Contreras family finally received a hand-written letter from [Dr.] Roi. She apologized, but explained, “After much prayer following your prenatal, I felt that I would not be able to develop the personal patient-doctor relationship that I normally do with my patients.” She admitted that she should have spoken to them that day instead of leaving a colleague to break the news, but she provided no clear explanation for the treatment. “Please know that I believe that God gives us free choice,” Roi wrote, “and I would never judge anyone based on what they do with that free choice.”

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 20, 2015 at 1:21am

This is what Hitchens said so powerfully,

Hitchens: Why fight religion?

For the doctor who would not take as a patient the child of same-sex parents, confusing loyalty to dogma before her hippocratic oath tells the parents all they need to know ... this doctor is not for them. 

Just another example of what Steven Weinstein said, 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 19, 2015 at 4:44pm

She had met with the couple a few months earlier and seemed reasonable. Then when they showed up for the appointment they were told by a colleague of the doctor's that she had "prayed on it" and couldn't help their baby. In fact she didn't even come in to work that day.  I'd say that goes beyond unethical and on into the realm of evil. But it's evil in the name of god so it's OK. I guess she took her hypocritical oath to heart.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 19, 2015 at 2:59pm

A Michigan doctor refused to treat a six-day old baby with same-sex parents  because religious freedom.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 17, 2015 at 12:40am

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2015 at 12:58pm

I was curious about what happened to the underage Beau Breedlove after his sexual relationship with Portland Mayor Sam Brown. It appears he opened and then closed after two years a French restaurant in Portland. I found nothing more about him. 

I hope he is doing well. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2015 at 10:53am

Also, Daniel, thugs seem to have a sense of entitlement. That word stood out for me when I was teaching in a Displace Homemakers program. Many of the women were leaving abusive marriages and needed to learn how to be self-sufficient. They had a sense of owing the world their services and had to fight against the social stigma of "feeding at the trough". Furthermore, many women believe the lie that suffering is living a life in imitation of the crucified christ and were blessed when they were beaten. Most of these women felt shame for being needy and not able to take care of themselves. They took on the accusations of getting services from the government through entitlement programs. Some women worked hard, maintained lovely homes, followed wherever their husbands took them.

My job was to help them identify their "functional" skills, i.e. budgeting, planning, organizing, transporting, fixing things, etc. and then transfer those skills to a resume to apply for jobs. Another of my jobs was to identify the ways they contributed to a family, the community, and society as a whole. This attitude change was a tough nut to crack. They needed to recognize that they did not owe the world their lives nor did the world owe them a living. They had to think of themselves as contributors to society and become self-sufficient, that they were participants in life.  

Too often, we would see a politician get up on his high horse and blame women for being dependent, when, in fact, many women suffered under the weight of being trained to be dependent. It is the ignorant politician or anyone who takes from others and insists others serve them that have an entitlement belief. How they would howl when I challenged politicians or abusive husbands about their feeding trough or their entitlement program. Let's get real, folks.  

The hate-mongers, bullies, thugs and brutes of the world need some education. 

Comment by sk8eycat on February 15, 2015 at 9:17am

Utah is trying to pull a "fast one."

http://modernatheist.org/2015/02/14/the-lds-church-and-civil-rights...

Following the disingenuous statements by LDS Church officials last week – ostensibly supporting anti discrimination measures for members of the LGBT community in housing and employment – the focus has been effectively diverted and short-stopped. And is being held hostage by the Mormon Legislature’s focus on proposed legislation, ostensibly needed to “Protect Religious Freedoms,” called for by The LDS Church as well.

Draper Republican LaVar Christensen’s proposed legislation fails to even address LGBT issues directly. Rather, he feels any concerns are adequately covered by the hate crimes law – passed 9 years ago – that says all Utah citizens should be free from discrimination in housing and employment. But if that were only the case, wouldn’t you think he’d also recognize that everyone’s ‘religious freedoms’ have been adequately protected – under the United States Constitution – for the last 240 years?

The elephant in the room? LaVar Christensen was the original author of Utah’s failed Proposition III – since thrown under the bus by the Federal Courts – that specifically denied same sex marriage in Utah.

Sour grapes? Plan B is a transparent attempt to enact Jim Crow-type laws, that would allow ongoing discrimination, by Mormon Church members, against those of the LGBT community. This time, under the guise of Personal Religious Conviction.

Let me just point to a few of the problems, with this truck-load of pious deceit.

Click on the above link for the entire article.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 12, 2015 at 8:35pm

Pat, I'm getting to the point where majority voters like those in Alabama and Kansas frighten me.  Their willful ignorance is appalling/

 

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