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Comment by Plinius on September 8, 2017 at 7:24am

From what I've seen here there are many Muslims and Christians who think that love and care are the first rules, no matter who you are, and after that they'll think perhaps about whatever else their religion wants. But you never know beforehand..

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 8, 2017 at 7:13am

>Black Protestants saw atheists as the biggest threat to physical safety

That surprised me.

Comment by Daniel W on September 7, 2017 at 11:57pm

People fear Christians, Atheists, Muslims... but  the article doesnt go into a lot of detail showing when those fears are well founded.  From the gay point of view, at least there arent a lot of atheists demonizing, persecuting, discriminating, even killing us.  I havent known enough muslims to say - but lets be real about their antigay attitudes.  With christians, Im on solid ground saying there is often good reason to distrust, if not fear, them. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 7, 2017 at 10:38pm

John, I saw that Guardian article earlier today and it made me think about the legitimacy of my own internal "gaydar."  It's really hard to pinpoint or put into words, but recognizing very subtle physical attributes can often be used to identify sexual orientation to a certain degree of accuracy more often than not.  At least that's my anecdotal experience.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 7, 2017 at 9:39pm

Andrew, you bring up a good point.  Mainstream religion is not innocuous.  As gay-friendly or socially progressive as these churches may be, they legitimize and normalize ridiculous and bad ideas and form a broad, strong foundation from whence fundamentalism springs.    

Comment by John Dumaker on September 7, 2017 at 7:43pm

Here is a concerning article about the use of AI to determine a persons sexuality as gay or straight. It does suggest the consensual scientific notion that sexuality is genetic, rather than a choice though.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/07/new-artificial-i...

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2017 at 7:21pm

Daniel, I agree, "

Why can't the USA be more like Canada?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 7, 2017 at 6:53pm

To me it's particularly objectionable that they use the lie that it's a choice to justify their condemnation and bigotry. Even if it were a choice, so what??? It's no one's business how someone else likes to make love, and they should just stfu.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 7, 2017 at 6:27pm

Things were significantly veering toward normalcy until the recent extremist takeover. I think it will be a while before we see the WH bathed in the rainbow colors again. The root problem is a widespread failure (or refusal) of so many people to distinguish between fact and fantasy.

Comment by Daniel W on September 7, 2017 at 5:28pm

Andrew and Carl, you are both right.  It's been a long struggle.  Maybe it will never end...

 

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