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Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by Janice Rael on December 6, 2014 at 5:52pm

Just remind them that computers are not natural, eyeglasses are not natural, air conditioning is not natural, deliberately ingesting medicine to cure an ailment is not natural..

Comment by sk8eycat on December 6, 2014 at 3:30pm

James, I have read and heard that homosexuality is "unnatural" or "against nature" more times than I can count.  And I want to scream.

REAL naturalists have recorded "homosexual behavior" in the wild for decades....it's a FACT, like evolution, and the real age of the universe(s).....I just want to beat that into the pea-brains that the customs of their one bigoted little tribe are not laws of nature.

BUT....the Michigan legislature has gone bonkers....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/05/1349672/-Michigan-House-pa...

And yet another unarmed black man has been killed by police....

I've GOT to stop reading DAILY KOS!  It makes me want to leave the building.  NOW.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 10:58am

sk8eycat, you don't carry that thought quite far enough. The problem with homophobes is that they equate "natural" with "normal" or even "ideal." If something can be done, it is natural by definition. So it really makes no difference if one "is" lgbtq because of genetic predisposition or choice, the latter being the cherished notion of a group of people who decry "choice" in the decisions of both men and women, including straight women. If the bigots were to accept the notion that one is born lgbtq, then what would their God look like: a capricious, arbitrary, frivolous deity whose name I only know as Chance.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 26, 2014 at 2:55am

A new study shows that homosexuality is natural and debunks criticism that claims it is not.

I have been saying for decades that if wild animals that mate for life can have same-sex partners, it HAS to be natural.  Of course, if homosexuality and evolution are mentioned in the same paragraph, the fundies are going to go apeshit....well, they will, anyway.

Comment by James M. Martin on November 25, 2014 at 11:26pm

I've said it for ages: lgbtq people are essential to the evolutionary process.

Comment by James M. Martin on November 25, 2014 at 11:25pm
Comment by James M. Martin on November 23, 2014 at 5:39pm

@C.L.A.W.S. The title was Growing Pains, and Cameron was cute as a button. I don't think I missed an episode. He played a character that is 180-degrees away from the guy he is now that he's having a midlife crisis and remembers the night he took some K and cocaine and fucked his brains out with one of the show's groupies, one of many. He is now feeling guilty about those years and has found Jesus. What a shame. Gay men tell me he is bisexual but in denial. Christianity will do that to a person.That's why Ted Turner called it "a religion for losers."

Comment by sk8eycat on November 22, 2014 at 4:10pm

Who is Kirk Cameron?  I never heard of hiim, so IMO he's a "never-was," just like Jeebus.

OR....maybe it's a case of "methinks the [person] doth protest too much."

When someone starts yammering about "sin" to me, I ask them to define the word.  Most xians can't.  They just stammer.

Comment by James M. Martin on November 21, 2014 at 12:39pm

@Daniel W, in enlightened countries, such as those free of religious bigotry, and where the age of consent is more in line with what we know about not only child development but scientific theories of nature over nurture causality, fifteen is not subject to statutory rape. Our laws need revamping considerably, bearing in mind the old 7's "law" based on the notion that 7's are a lifetime change number so that laws were passed to apply to those under 7, over 14, and, as is currently the law with regard to drinking, 21. Also ignored by the report is the level of sexual sophistication the boy had. I'd like to defend these men in court. Blow this whole issue up. For all we know, that 15 year old knew more about sex than both of the adults combined.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 16, 2014 at 11:18am

So right, Daniel. As the old Mellencamp song goes, "Ain't that America!" Don't Ask, Don't Tell was about as juvenile and absurd a policy as can be imagined, but I guess it was the most Clinton figured he could get.

 

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