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Comment by The Flying Atheist on November 3, 2013 at 7:16pm

Some great news coming from Germany.......

Germany allows third gender option on birth certificates

Aljazeerra America

Under new legislation, the field for gender can be left blank on birth certificates, effectively creating a category for indeterminate sex in the public record.

Germany will soon also allow the gender field on passports be filled with an "X" instead of "M" or "F."

Activists promoting the rights of so-called intersex people said they hoped the creation of a third gender option would open the door to broader changes that would limit genital surgery on newborns with both male and female characteristics.

"It's a first, important step in the right direction," said Lucie Veith, an intersex person from the northern German city of Hamburg.

But Veith said leaving the gender undefined on birth certificates was never the main lobbying point for the Association of Intersexed People in Germany, or others in the intersex community.

"Forbid cosmetic genital surgeries for newborns, that is our first demand," said Veith, who leads the organization.

Experts estimate one in 1,500 to 2,000 births result in a baby of indeterminate gender, or both male and female gender features.

Surgeries such as clitoral reductions, removal of undescended testicles, and vaginoplasty, or the surgical creation of a vagina, can be performed to physically assign a gender.

According to a 2012 European Commission report on the topic, surgeries are performed on intersex babies and infants in many European countries without adequate informed consent by the patients.

The report also found that many intersex-born people are angry that these surgeries were performed without their consent.

Other countries that recognize a third gender on their passports include: Australia, Bangladesh, India, Nepal and New Zealand. Pakistan’s national identity cards began allowing the option for a third gender in 2011. Thailand’s military officially recognizes a third gender as well.

Comment by Loren Miller on October 31, 2013 at 6:20am

HOT DAMN!  Great news, Carl, thanks for posting it!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on October 30, 2013 at 11:34pm

This stone is gathering no moss.


Hawaii Senate passes bill to legalize gay marriage

Reuters news article

The 20-4 vote in favor of the bill, with three Democrats joining the state Senate's lone Republican to oppose the measure, came two days after the start of a special session called by Democratic Governor Neil Abercrombie to take up the legislation. One senator was absent for the vote.

If the bill is approved, as expected, by the state House of Representatives - where Democrats outnumber Republicans 44-7 - Hawaii would become the 15th vote to make it legal for gay and lesbian couples to wed.

Comment by Loren Miller on October 28, 2013 at 8:25am

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 27, 2013 at 12:48pm
"And not hearing any substantive objection ... "
Carl, an evocative, sweet moment recorded for sharing the evolution of marriage.
Comment by Susan Stanko on October 27, 2013 at 12:20pm

straight people just need more supervision

Whites need...not apply rise up stand up fight back.

At least the Straight people one was funny.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on October 27, 2013 at 12:07pm stop whining. shut up. 

Those are my Google results.  Discouraging.  Shows the intense undercurrent of hated that runs through our society.  Out of curiosity I Googled the same thing using the term "blacks."  Results are just as bad.   

Comment by The Flying Atheist on October 21, 2013 at 12:01pm

Comment by The Flying Atheist on October 2, 2013 at 8:11pm

Yes, that's a very strange video from Australian Julia Gillard.  It sounds like she's against the whole concept of "traditional" marriage, or straight.  I can certainly understand her personal opposition to many of the "traditional" customs (white dresses, father giving away the bride, etc.) but to impose her views politically upon others seems to totally go against her desire to let people choose the type of relationship they want to be a part of, just as she has done herself.  Very odd.   

Comment by Susan Stanko on October 1, 2013 at 9:52pm

Was that supposed to make sense?


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