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Comment by Grinning Cat on November 10, 2014 at 1:14pm

A Christian rebutting the "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" argument:

"The Genesis 2 marriage model says nothing about wedding gifts therefore God must be against wedding gifts. Of course, no one believes that and no thinking person would draw that conclusion from Genesis 2." (Rick Brentlinger, from gaychristian101.com)

Similarly, it's just as illogical to conclude that God must be against wedding rings... and against getting married in church... and against adopting children... and against same-sex couples.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 7, 2014 at 10:35am

Charles P. Pierce comments on the upholding of marriage bans


http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_Court_Gets_One_Handed_To_It

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I can hardly wait for the Nine Wise Souls (finally) to weigh in on marriage equality. We will get to hear Antonin (Short Time) Scalia say "sodomy" a lot. John Roberts will seek to excuse himself when the testimony gets too icky. Clarence Thomas will say nothing. And Anthony Kennedy will show up in a white sarong, blindfolded, holding a scale. It ought to be a hoot, it should.
The Sixth Circuit Court Of Appeals fast-tracked the issue up the food chain late yesterday, handing down a ruling that upheld bans on gay marriage in four states, reversing lower court rulings on the subject. Because there is now a "split" between the Sixth Circuit and several other federal circuit courts of appeal, the Nine Wise Souls can't duck the issue any more -- not since Judge Jeffrey Sutton, who wrote the majority opinion for the Sixth Circuit, has positioned himself in his arguments as the last person holding back the forces of unchecked Fabulousness.

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He also quotes the one out of three dissenting judge's statement:

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The author of the majority opinion has drafted what would make an engrossing TED Talk or, possibly, an introductory lecture in Political Philosophy. But as an appellate court decision, it wholly fails to grapple with the relevant constitutional question in this appeal: whether a state's constitutional prohibition of same-sex marriage violates equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment. Instead, the majority sets up a false premise-that the question before us is "who should decide?"-and leads us through a largely irrelevant discourse on democracy and federalism. In point of fact, the real issue before us concerns what is at stake in these six cases for the individual plaintiffs and their children, and what should be done about it. Because I reject the majority's resolution of these questions based on its invocation of vox populi and its reverence for "proceeding with caution" (otherwise known as the "wait and see" approach), I dissent.

Comment by sk8eycat on November 7, 2014 at 9:43am

Then what about the parable about the seven virgins who were all going to be married to the same man on the same night?  What did all those extra women do while their husband was busy elsewhere?  I have read in several different books and articles that in plural/polygamous families that the women usually formed special attachments to one or more of their "sister-wives."

And then there was Solomon and his 300 wives and 700 concubines.....the harem guards may have been gelded, but what about the women?

For that matter, how many wives does the King of Saudi Arabia have right now?  Who do they "sleep" with when he's not around?

Hypocrites, all of them.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 7, 2014 at 9:23am

Linking opposition to same sex marriage to dominionism rather than just religious traditionalism.

This showed up on RD today under the title Gay Marriage Isn't About Christianity So Much As Christian Nationalism

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Eerie coincidence or scholar-geist?*

From last month’s RD interview with Leslie J. Harris, associate professor of communications at the UW-Milwaukee:

I’ve become convinced that today’s debate about same-sex marriage is not simply about preserving a seemingly sacred and unchanging institution, or securing particular rights and privileges. Rather, it is about negotiating the boundaries of American-ness.

From yesterday’s RNS blog post by political science prof Daniel Bennett:

[S]ame-sex marriage is about more than morality or ideology. It is about how people view the United States of America.

*It’s been brought to my attention that this post could be read as an implication of plagiarism, which was the furthest thing from my mind. I meant only to highlight how fascinating it is that two entirely different data sets yielded a similar, though slightly unusual, conclusion.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 6, 2014 at 9:37pm

If it made a shitload of money and "created jobs" we probably would. In the 2016 elections, the republicans could interview Joe the queer.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 6, 2014 at 8:56pm

Really? One day after the election??

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/06/supreme-court-gay-marriage...

Hopefully this will be a good thing in the end, but when your future depends on a coven of staunch catholics, anything goes.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 30, 2014 at 6:01pm

Tim Cook cont.


From San Jose Mercury News


http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26830751/tim-cooks-essay-his...

Other prominent reactions:


"From one son of the South and sports fanatic to another, my hat's off to you, @Tim_cook." - Former President Bill Clinton, on Twitter


"Thank you Tim for showing what it means to be a real, courageous and authentic leader." - Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg


"Our friend Tim Cook spoke out today -- and will help a lot of people by doing so. Leadership takes courage and we all applaud him as a leader and as a friend." - Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg


"Bravo." - Twitter CEO Dick Costolo


"@tim_cook = Courageous. Proud to work for you and be your friend." - Apple executive Philip Schiller


"Respect." - Marc Andreessen, of Andreessen Horowitz, on Twitter


"If leadership is the ability to inspire others to achieve shared objectives, @tim_cook embodied that today." - LinkedIn CEO Jeff Weiner

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 30, 2014 at 5:39pm

Good news/bad news


Tim Cook, CEO of Apple, penned an article in Bloomberg Businessweek officially revealing his sexual orientation.


http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-10-30/tim-cook-im-proud-t...


He spoke with some wisdom:


Being gay has given me a deeper understanding of what it means to be in the minority and provided a window into the challenges that people in other minority groups deal with every day. It’s made me more empathetic, which has led to a richer life. It’s been tough and uncomfortable at times, but it has given me the confidence to be myself, to follow my own path, and to rise above adversity and bigotry. It’s also given me the skin of a rhinoceros, which comes in handy when you’re the CEO of Apple.


The bad news - he said "I'm proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me."


Ya win some, ya lose some.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on October 24, 2014 at 11:22pm

It's very disturbing how situations like that can escalate so quickly.  But it's really great to see innocent bystanders stepping up to the plate and helping out without hesitation.  In fact the one guy, in the cowboy hat, initially took it upon himself to try and subdue the situation by talking. 

This video shows just how vulnerable we can be in any type of environment.    

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 21, 2014 at 11:42pm

Heh!

 

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