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Does Obama's gay advocacy exclude trans

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Betty Bowers on PRIDE

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Gay christians.

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Boycotting Indiana

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 2, 2015 at 1:46pm

In contrast, here's a very different reaction in a highly unusual Christian act of contrition:

A Southern Christian Asks for Forgiveness at a Gay Pride Festival

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 2, 2015 at 7:47am

Thanks for the memories, Daniel!

She got one thing right when she said "My word isn't truth." If she's the future of Christianity, I'd say we've already won. I love that down in the comments some viewer posted for her edification Betty Bowers' explanation of "traditional marriage." That ought to straighten her right out.

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on July 1, 2015 at 10:35pm

Wow Daniel, that just proves that all the Fruit Loops don't come in a box.  She claims to have read her Bibble Book but I bet she means that someone told her about all the grody bits that she really wants to believe.  Of course, them being super

holy people they would never Lie?  That book is so right in every way, you know why, because the book says it is the truth and you are not allowed to disagree.

Comment by Daniel W on July 1, 2015 at 9:28pm

I hate to say it, but I laughed at this looney-tune person's meltdown.

TheNewCivilRightsMovement.com

Maybe she ran out of valium.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 1, 2015 at 1:03pm

Time's article is WAYYYY overdue.

Churches should never have been tax-exempt, and it should have been written into the constitution.  They are a business, like any other...that's entertainment.  If you buy tickets for a Broadway show or a circus, the tax is included in the overall price.

With honest bookkeeping, small congregations would probably not have to pay anything.  Of course mega-churches don't know the meaning of "honest," but I'd love to see them go bankrupt the way Robert Schuller has. They deserve it just for being arrogant,

Comment by Pat on July 1, 2015 at 10:01am

Time's article is spot on. But, like Loren said, premature. I hope to see the day government lives up to the admonition that Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion by giving them tax exemptions. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be in my lifetime.

On another note, here's a great video courtesy of a reference by Brother Richard. The glaring difference between an adult who learned to hate, and a child who learned love.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 1, 2015 at 9:25am

Time magazine's article is yeast in the mix of questioning the heavy emphasis on religion in USA. I agree, Loren, it is premature, and it is a seed. 

Comment by Loren Miller on July 1, 2015 at 8:59am

That's one hell of a statement Time magazine makes, there, Carl.  I see a serious problem with it, though, in that it would tend to ruin the small congregations which may or may not be innocuous, while the mega-churches with millions in their coffers would be able to survive, though taking a substantial monetary hit.  Exactly HOW churches would be taxed, on what scale and at what rates, would be the topic for endless debate all by itself.  Indeed, with all the god-talk that goes on in Congress as it is, how such a bill could get out of committee, never mind getting an up-or-down vote with the current make up of the House and Senate, is a question mark at best.

A further problem would be that the US government would be accused of pulling a massive about-face on its principles and indulging in clear persecution of religion, with butt-hurt christians leading the way, of course.  Personally, I see such a move while religion remains dominant in the US as a non-starter.  Reduce that influence with grass-roots action as atheists, agnostics and freethinkers are doing now to the point where we more closely resemble England in its religion attitudes and it might be a lot more possible.

I'm glad Time did what they did.  I just think it's premature.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 1, 2015 at 8:43am

Daniel, Time magazine just published a editorial advocating that religious organizations should lose their tax-exempt status.

Now’s the Time To End Tax Exemptions for Religious Institutions

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 30, 2015 at 3:00pm

I had a devil of a time getting this posted. So I copied and pasted it on another site and it was posted. Now, I see this one was finally posted a minute ago. Sorry for the duplicate. 

 

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