LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: on Saturday

Forum is now open for comments only, due to limited moderation.

The original creator has been absent 8 years.  She may no longer identify as Lesbian or as Atheist, but could still experience discrimination due to being listed as creator of this group.  This group does come up on internet search with this person, and her photo photo, as group creator.  We live in era when discrimination can be expected to increase on many fronts.

I moderated since that time. On several occasions, I requested that another member moderate, but was unable to find a volunteer who would actively moderate content.

Please be aware, posts left active on this group, especially discussion forum, can be hazardous to members, even ones who have been gone for many years.  In most states and countries, there is no protection for LGBT people regarding employment, housing, or employment.  The same is true regarding atheists.  Some members may not even be aware of discrimination, and may not be aware that their old posts and images are still there to come back and haunt them.  Posts and the membership list are visible on internet searches.

There has been at least one case of a member of Atheist Nexus experiencing employment discrimination due to their membership. 

Another member of Atheist Nexus was murdered in India, in 2011 (Ajita Kamal).  As far as I can tell, the perpetrator and motive were never found, but Kamal was a known atheist, and known atheists are frequently targeted for brutal killings in South Asia.

Any member who posts, without having their own photo or name on their screen name and avatar, is expressing implied agreement, by default, about the importance of privacy, even on the internet.

A controversial group needs an active moderator, who will look out for the needs and safety of the members, as much as possible in such a forum.

As has recently been done, posts on Atheist Nexus are subject to screenshots.  They are also be subject to internet search.

I recommend that interested members start a new LGBT group, so that there is no issue with long absent group creator and no longer having a moderator.  Until that time, this group is open for a rolling comment wall.  I am not able to expire comments without closing the entire comment page, due to host program (Ning) limitations on moderation.

Daniel W.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 20, 2015 at 7:07pm

Oh! Bertold, thank you for that information about Susan G. Komen. What a decent and intelligent thing to do. With people such as Susan, we might just have a humane government, after all. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 20, 2015 at 4:26pm

Susan G. Komen speaks out for equality, signs on to amicus brief to POTUS.

. . . it is almost impossible for me to fathom that in 26 percent of this nation, civil marriage is still unavailable for same-sex couples. There is absolutely no reason why loving same-sex couples should be excluded from the fundamental right to marry the person they love.
We are at a historical crossroads in America, when disparate political and ideological communities are committed to ensuring that discrimination on any level will not be tolerated. With this in mind, I have added my name to an amicus brief concerning government recognition of the freedom to marry filed with the U.S. Supreme Court by Project Right Side and former Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman. A total of 303 Republican, libertarian, conservative, and center-right high-profile activists and government officials have signed on to the brief. We want the court to know that we support traditional conservative values, including a belief in the importance of stable families, and that those conservative values are consistent with affording civil marriage rights to same-sex couples.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 13, 2015 at 3:45pm

Weekend entertainment, anyone??

There's a Brit TV show called Intelligence Squared that's a debate format, and this is a particularly heartening episode from a few years back. The topic is "Is the Catholic Church a Force for Good in the World? Arguing the pro side of the proposition is a most undynamic duo consisting of a Nigerian archbishop of the Catholic Church and a shrill and irritating former MP who noisily resigned the Church of England because they began ordaining women and became a Catholic. The pair, as the audience votes attest, would have lost a debate to a used prophylactic, and in this case they were absolutely no match for the "against" side which consists of Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry.


A memorable moment - while the Hitch is excoriating the Church for condemning his friend Fry for "who he is," he notes that "Homosexuality isn't just a kind of sex, it's a kind of love."

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 8, 2015 at 3:47pm

According to Out mag, before he leaves the AG spot Eric Holder is planning to have the DOJ file an amicus brief with SCOTUS denouncing statewide bans on same sex marriage.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 24, 2015 at 11:03pm

I thought that sleeve-cutting myth was about a sleeping kitten....

Comment by Daniel W on February 24, 2015 at 10:27pm

50 LGBTI factoids  I knew a lot of these but not all.  Kind of devoid of context - for example, the story about gay Chinese being sleeveless is based on the emperor's lover falling asleep on his arm, and when the emperor wanted to move, he cut off his sleeve so he would not awaken his lover.

Anyway, it's interesting reading the factoids all in a list.

Comment by Daniel W on February 23, 2015 at 11:00am

Lunar New Year - also called Chinese New Year, is the largest mass migration of humanity in the world.  It's like Christmas, Thanksgiving, and the Hadj, combined.

Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2015 at 11:08pm

On gay wedding cakes...  Im not sure I agree, but I get Matt's point.

Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2015 at 9:30pm

I'm thinking about a general forum discussion on this topic.  On graduation from medical school, some doctors take the Declaration of Geneva (OHSU did that), some take Oath of Hypocrites, some take other oaths or none at all.  Depends on the medical school.  This is the Oath of Geneva, the Physician's oath taken at the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession:

"I solemnly pledge myself to consecrate my life to the service of humanity;

"I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which is their due;

"I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity; the health of my patient will be my first consideration;

"I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honor and the noble traditions of the medical profession; my colleagues will be my brothers;

"I will not permit considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics or social standing to intervene between my duty and my patient;

"I will maintain the utmost respect for human life from the time of conception,

"Even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity;

"I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honor."

Obviously, this pediatrician DOES permit religion and/or politics to intervene between her duty and her patient.   In addition, the health of her patient is not her first consideration.  Based on my understanding, she is clear in her violation of medical ethics.

However, as far as I know, the state medical boards to not require that any doctor has taken an oath, or that the doctor follow that oath.   In addition, I don't think Michigan includes LGBT people in its laws regarding discrimination and public accommodations. 

Felaine, being male of female doesn't guarantee any kind of sympathy or empathy.  But I know you already know that.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 20, 2015 at 6:31pm

Loren, the doctor in question is a WOMAN!!  You's think a female would be more sympathetic, but NOHHHHHHH!

 

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