LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends.

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Comment by James M. Martin on June 27, 2014 at 12:52pm
"i think so because majorities make stereotypes about them and look down on them, they might feel a little more pressured, yeah.." This is why the marriage equality movement is at the forefront of lgbtq liberation philosophy. I once objected to it as pandering 2 s8's, thinking of the old Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band lyric:
We are normal
And we want our freedom, our freedom
Freedom, freedom, freedom
We are normal
And we want our freedom
Comment by Fallen Angel on June 27, 2014 at 7:58am

@Silent Biped, i think that teenagers who are already feeling suicidal are the ones that try to get help, you know, to cure themselves, i never heard of a completely mentally and emotionally sound person going to get therapy, maybe some do but significantly lower than not, but, it could also be caused im assuming by the realisation that the treatment or "medication" isn't working and also a fear of disappointing the people who put them there in the first place, no doubt they are feeling a lot of social pressure and internal pressure, i think minorities tend to feel a higher social pressure, i think so because majorities make stereotypes about them and look down on them, they might feel a little more pressured, yeah...well, as always religion probably serves to make them feel worthless and sinful without God, it puts the burden on them to just "fix" things which aren't even broken, it gives you the burden of getting better and places God in the victims seat, he's the one that needs the attention and the care at your expense, ironic, anyways, this is just what i assume, also, being black and latinos were kind of shoved into the lower class by whites, though a number of them have made it out, the poverty cycle is a hard one to break, while once slaves to white masters they're now slaves to the religion that was forced upon them so violently in the past

Comment by Fallen Angel on June 27, 2014 at 7:39am

when you call a transgender person by the wrong pronouns and they say it's okay, it's probably not okay, also, if they tell you what name they want to be called and then tell you their birth name, don't ask what they want to be called, just assume it's the name they asked you to call them in the first place

Comment by Fallen Angel on June 24, 2014 at 9:39am
Comment by Chrissie Farthing on June 23, 2014 at 2:01pm

Hi Fallen Angel, well I have been a member of this group for quite some time and I am sure everyone here knows my transgender status and I have been accepted with no problem.  Us "Ts" have to make ourselves visible which we tend not to do.  I join into everything under the LGBT banner and I have always been made a full partner in the activities.  Too many of us are not out and proud and until we get fully involved we will appear on the outside I am involved with SAGE and PROMO and I belong to a number of lesbian groups and the only place I have ever found prejudice has been OLOC.  When I was made aware of their bias I promptly resigned and I hear that a number of non T ladies have also dropped membership.

My advice, don't complain - just get involved.  It works.

Comment by Fallen Angel on June 23, 2014 at 11:34am

i think the issue of transgenders is kind of not being addressed and kind of swept under the table and thoroughly diluted into gay rights and sexuality, transsexualism is actually a very different issue, it has to do with gender and gender expression, so, im just leaving this message here for atheists to see so hopefully they can help create some awareness for the trans community and encourage people to get educated about what being trans really is, thank you :)

ps. not that you guys don't care about the trans community already, just putting this out there cause, you know, poular atheists often talk about the lgbt community and mention homosexuality a lot but they don't really cover gender identity and gender expression, which i think they should...maybe it might get someone's attention out there

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2014 at 10:41pm

Chrissie, what a wonderful life you have lived and yu made some tough choices. It must have been a challenge to decide to make such an important change in your life, even as you could not have known the hidden risks you were taking. What if you didn't like the choice you made? or What if you were unhappy with your new self? I respect your wisdom and courage to take on such a life's journey and now can describe your experiences first hand. 

I am very happy you joined this group. 

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on June 20, 2014 at 10:31pm

After living on both sides I think females, if done right can be wonderful and great fun.  For me, this new life is much more rewarding than my previous life.  Of course I was able to make a lot better income as male and now in retirement I don't have to be employed and I have a reasonable income so now is a wonderful fun time.  To go back to male would for me be worse than death. 

Of course I was never interested in the so called male fun things to do and always longed for those things that we as females get involved in. I can now be a doll collector out in the open and have a house full of them.  I play Bunko in a lesbian group and several other female groups so females do have more fun but that is only my opinion.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2014 at 8:56pm

Felaine, of course I remember the WASPs but not the vivid remembrance of Dorothy Britt Mann by her daughter. Those were interesting times, indeed, and many changes came out of those experiences of women doing men's work when the men were at war, and then returning to women's work at lower pay, power and prestige. 

Chrissie, love your story and how you can use your femaleness to make your point. I am just a wee bit curious, do women have more fun than men? 

"a woman’s place is every place."

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on June 20, 2014 at 8:02pm

Next March I will be attending the reunion of Air Force Pilot Training Class 55 India. In the early 50s there were no female pilots.  As I have been female for a number of years now and pass so well this is going to be fun to show and say no, I am not one of the wives I am one of the pilots. I have the history and now days I just love walking into a male dominated area with full rights to be there but as a woman.  Then when one of them challenges me I let it be known I also served as an officer in several African and Arabian Armed Forces something that most of them didn't have the balls for.  I just love rocking the boat and I am still having fun in my 80s. 

The WASPs were a wonderful bunch and they as well as the Rosy the Riveters were really dumped on when it was over.  I lived near the Navy Yard in Wash. DC and saw how so many ladies in my neighborhood were just told "Go home and don't come back, you are no longer needed"

 

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